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Title: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: admin on September 03, 2011, 09:35:06 AM
The one thing I'm not seeing these days are scores of emails telling there are no signs of anything coming. - Marshall

Disasters in US: An extreme and exhausting year  (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_WEATHER_EXTREMES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-03-08-31-38)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nature is pummeling the United States this year with extremes.

Unprecedented triple-digit heat and devastating drought. Deadly tornadoes leveling towns. Massive rivers overflowing. A billion-dollar blizzard. And now, unusual hurricane-caused flooding in Vermont.

If what's falling from the sky isn't enough, the ground shook in places that normally seem stable: Colorado and the entire East Coast. On Friday, a strong quake triggered brief tsunami warnings in Alaska. Arizona and New Mexico have broken records for wildfires.

Total weather losses top $35 billion, and that's not counting Hurricane Irene, according to the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration. There have been more than 700 U.S. disaster and weather deaths, most from the tornado outbreaks this spring.

Last year, the world seemed to go wild with natural disasters in the deadliest year in a generation. But 2010 was bad globally, and the United States mostly was spared.
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Lori on September 03, 2011, 10:17:30 AM
I won't explain why I feel we where spared in 2010.  But I think we are all getting the message this year.
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Bill on September 03, 2011, 01:58:31 PM
Times, they are a changing.
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: noproblemo2 on September 03, 2011, 02:49:38 PM
My guess, more intensity with the approach of our "friend".
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Linda on September 04, 2011, 05:39:24 PM
Oddly enough we're getting wacked by storms one more time here in preparation for our 45 degree 12 hour drop that's supposed to be coming.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that is watching as many resources for natural happenings around the world these days trying to see patterns.

So, question. Does it just seem like there is more intense activity because we're watching more closely or is the information gathering getting better (as the dis-info clowns would have us believe).

I for one do not remember  a year or summer this intense. We have had a storm or two roll through almost every single week this summer. 22 days of above 90 deg weather in Michigan. The norm is 12. Lightning storms like crazy with massive amounts of rainfall, and that's just here. When you add all the other weather anomalies its pretty obvious.

I say there is just more intense activity period!
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Ed Douglas on September 06, 2011, 03:28:34 PM
Gosh Linda, that's bad.. Down here, in Ohio, we've had almost perfect weather all summer. 75 degrees and sunny, with a slight breeze. Oh well.   ed
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: augonit on September 06, 2011, 03:41:41 PM
Speak for yourself Ed.  In my neck of the woods, the summer was pretty nice and normal for most of it, then it was like hot on top of hot!  Now, it's been very rainy and getting chilly.  I know it's in the upper 50's and lower 60's, but it was over 90 just a couple days ago!
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Linda on September 07, 2011, 05:03:16 AM
Ed's just making fun of me :P You know what they say about pay backs Ed!
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: terrypat on September 07, 2011, 05:50:51 AM
Gosh Linda, that's bad.. Down here, in Ohio, we've had almost perfect weather all summer. 75 degrees and sunny, with a slight breeze. Oh well.   ed

Geez Ed, with weather that nice you guys ought to be doin' the fig leaf wardrobe thing. Welcome to Eden. I guess the poles have shifted
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Ed Douglas on September 08, 2011, 08:42:27 AM
I thought I might remind Linda of the small fact that Football season has started. All is fair in love and football, Linda. You know I love ya, except for a certain saturday in November.   ed
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Lori on September 08, 2011, 11:24:22 AM
One of our Big games here is Georgia vs. Georgia Tech.  The other is Georgia vs. FL

Oh and Woodland vs Cartersville. lol

It was so hot here this summer, and now we have beautiful Fall weather in the 60's the past 4 days. It happened real fast too.  The 80's are coming back in the next couple of days but still even that won't be too bad.
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Ed Douglas on September 08, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
Temperatures have been all over the place for the past few weeks. Hot as heck, then almost cold enough to turn on heat. Normal Ohio weather, actually, haha.   ed
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: terrypat on September 08, 2011, 01:10:59 PM
Other than a 2 yr in a row dryer than normal monsoon season here in the Mohave things are very steady. 100's last week . 90's & desert dryness this week. Good sleeping weather with lows in the 70's at night.
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Linda on September 09, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
I thought I might remind Linda of the small fact that Football season has started. All is fair in love and football, Linda. You know I love ya, except for a certain saturday in November.   ed

We shall see Ed! :-* :-* :-* Uh I forgot what's the name of that team?  ??? Buck something?
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: livewire120v on September 10, 2011, 05:44:52 PM
Hello All,
   Ed and Linda.  My weather here in Ga. has been great except a minor drought towards the end of the summer.  The sudden temperature change Ed experienced is quite normal for Ga. but we are in the subtropic side.  The thing that is unusual is the rainfall.  We have been in a drought (some bad ones during some years and some minor ones during other years) for almost all of the past 20 years.  How about you Ed?
   I have given up on nonproducing plants (lawn and flowers).  I still work to keep my fruit, nut and veggies producing.
   Linda in Ed's defense, I ran across a person that was spreading how bad (hot) the climate in Ga. is and how heat has changed for the worse.  We were both native Georgians.  I have lived here for 49 years.  He said there was virtually no winter.  That winter we had 2 small snows. In the subtropics, that is rare (this was several years ago).  We usually do not get even 1 snow.  He then exclaimed the winter only lasted a month or so.  But that is normal here.  I believe he meant how dry it was.  We must be careful not to cry wolf (lose our authority).  Though I hope the bloggers here will be forgiving if misspoken, we must correct anything that can be used by the mis-info. crowd. 
   I do believe technology has increased our ability to find and report disasters but irregardless, it appears obvious that something is going on weather-wise over the years and appears to be exponentially gaining.  I hear a lot of ideas on this subject but the one that seems most scientifically plausible is the cooling of the planets core.  Spiritual matters are very difficult for me to digest because I tend to be a black and white type personality.  I have improved on this a Little and have a christian faith but I still find my self at odds with most main stream religions on several subjects.  Therefore, I tend to leave out spiritual and a lot of conspiracy matters.
   Oops, I over posted.  One more matter and I will go.  I have posted/printed material that has been misunderstood or improperly expressed my ideas.  I do not intentionally print anything to be offensive, including this post.  If it seems so then I did a poor job of typing my idea.  I am new here (first post) and usually do not post blogs.  I just liked this site.  I will write an introduction when I have time.
   Thanks
          My team embarrasses me most years - Go dirty Birds
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Ed Douglas on September 10, 2011, 07:48:06 PM
We have had more rainy days this summer, than a long time. Farming has been spotty. Some were flooded late spring, and are not good. The farms that were not flooded have good looking corn and such. Some of my friends say the tomatoes aren't too good this year.   ed
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Linda on September 11, 2011, 07:35:48 PM
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Linda in Ed's defense, I ran across a person that was spreading how bad (hot) the climate in Ga. is and how heat has changed for the worse.  We were both native Georgians.  I have lived here for 49 years.  He said there was virtually no winter.  That winter we had 2 small snows. In the subtropics, that is rare (this was several years ago).  We usually do not get even 1 snow.  He then exclaimed the winter only lasted a month or so.  But that is normal here.  I believe he meant how dry it was.  We must be careful not to cry wolf (lose our authority).
To clear things up, I posted what the weather was like here this summer in response to a question posted by billxam, I was not attempting to make any spectacular claims or cry wolf. I think you misunderstood the banter between Ed and myself, when he responded that in his area the weather was perfect. But none the less I will substantiate my claims with the article below.  Ed maybe you should explain your humor ;D

Surprised? Hottest July in 134 years is also second-wettest
Francis X. Donnelly/ The Detroit News

Everyone knows July was hot. In fact, it was the hottest July in Detroit in the 134 years the National Weather Service has been keeping track.

But did you notice all the rain? Because it also was the second-wettest July during that span.

The wettest was in 1878 with 8.76 inches of rain, the weather service reported Sunday. Detroit received 7.66 inches in July.

"I know it was hot," said Kelly McCann, 25, a Flat Rock school bus driver who was surprised to learn about the accompanying rain. "When wasn't it?"

The heat Sunday was one reason she was visiting MotorCity Casino, as much for the air conditioning as for a monthly promotion it was running.

Even a professional weather guy was caught unaware of all the precipitation in July.
Despite the rain, July will be remembered for its unrelenting heat.

The average temperature was 79.3 degrees, said Freitag. That broke the old mark of 79 in 1955 and 1921.

The heat will keep rolling into August. Today should reach 90 degrees, while Tuesday might get as high as 92, according to the weather service.

The rest of the week is expected to become cooler, with highs in the mid 80s. The thunderstorms of July also will leak into August. There's a 30 percent chance of rain today and Tuesday.

As Detroit bids farewell to July, here are some sweat-stained mementos from the month:

The first 100-degree day in 16 years (July 21).

The first seven-day heat wave in 17 years (July 17-23).

Fourteen days of temperatures in the 90s.

Perhaps the fondest memory of the month came the evening of July 14. That's when the thermometer reached its lowest point of the month, a positively frosty 58 degrees.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110801/METRO/108010328/Surprised?-Hottest-July-in-134-years-is-also-second-wettest#ixzz1XhZD2voW (http://detnews.com/article/20110801/METRO/108010328/Surprised?-Hottest-July-in-134-years-is-also-second-wettest#ixzz1XhZD2voW)


I"m just sayin!
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: chaunska on September 11, 2011, 07:47:11 PM
Wish I could say the same here with rain.    Here in Kansas, we have had the hottest and driest summer on record.   52 days of heat over 100 degrees.  Most of those broke records and were above 107.  And that doesn't even count the days over 100 we had before the summer solstice.   Our last Sweat Lodge ceremony we had it was 112 degrees.    I think the hottest was 117 degrees, not heat index, actual temp. this summer.   We had less rain than we had during the Dust Bowl.  Everyone's corn dried up.   Even our cotton is done.  Beans have no pods on them and might be able to be rolled up into hay, but even that doesn't look good right now.  We won't even bother to plant wheat if it isn't going to rain.   Even some shallow rooted trees are dying here.   Acres and acres of cottonwoods are brown.    I am not exaggerating.   I have an old building from the turn of the century and it dates and temps written down from 1932 to 1936.   We were hotter than those recordings.
Friday Sept 2 was over 100 degrees, the next day it was 80 and has been about 80 up until today when it warmed up to about 88 degrees.  Usually, we have hot weather well into the equinox when is just cools down pretty well at night.   I have a feeling winter is coming early this year again and it will be another extremely cold one.
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: errrv on September 12, 2011, 07:46:41 AM
Well once the cool weather hit Oklahoma, it basically turned spring again! Everything is in full bloom here. The flowers, fruit, everything. That heat killed everything, then the cool weather & rain started the spring cycle over! Never seen or heard of anything like it, but it sure is beautiful here now. All the trees new leaves are bright green again. I sure do love spring!
Erv
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: willsorr75 on September 12, 2011, 09:04:11 AM
This last winter dumped more snow than normal for Tennessee. It will be interesting to see what happens this coming winter
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: errrv on September 12, 2011, 10:01:07 AM
This last winter dumped more snow than normal for Tennessee. It will be interesting to see what happens this coming winter

If you follow the web bot reports, it says we are going to have a whopper! South America has already gotten it!
Erv
Title: Re: 2011 and USA - Bad Year for Natural Disasters
Post by: Ed Douglas on September 13, 2011, 01:26:09 PM
I should explain that Linda lives in Michigan, myself in Ohio. College football has created a natural rivalry, in good fun. I like to needle her when I can. She is a lovely sport and hands it right back to me, which I expect no less.   ed