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Title: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Terigaddy on January 13, 2011, 06:33:13 AM
Earth's magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysterious bird deaths

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030996_bird_deaths_pole_shift.html#ixzz1AvT1fkR7

Wow!  This looks like an event that we will see more of in the next two years.

Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: ASEEKERTOO on January 13, 2011, 12:23:53 PM
Earth's magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysterious bird deaths

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030996_bird_deaths_pole_shift.html#ixzz1AvT1fkR7

Wow!  This looks like an event that we will see more of in the next two years.
Excellent write up about the magnetic pole shift topic.
This is one particular passage that stood out"
"Another possibility is that the deadly space clouds could have frozen the birds in flight with blasts of extremely cold air. But such an event also would have seemingly impacted the trees and plants at ground level, and there's no evidence of that occurring either."

Many many years ago I read a book that was trying to explain how enormous Mastadons could possibly be frozen IN THERE TRACKS
while eating tropical vegetation. One theory put forth was that for some unexplained reason SUPER COOLED AIR FROM SPACE
had somehow found a way to ground level. And it did so more or less instanteously. Considering the temperature of space outside
of our atmosphere it would be no wonder at all that something could be flash frozen. Now, what happened to the mastadons to have
KEPT them frozen afterwards I have no clue. A GEOGRAPHIC shift at the same time may have happened to put the carcasses into the
polar circle.
It could be possible that such a thing happened with the birds and it was a 'weak' event having not reached to ground level and
was of very short duration. Who knows...............

Amazing stuff is coming out bit by bit and day by day.

Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Bill on January 13, 2011, 04:31:52 PM
I know I take it out of context but in the Kolbren,Book of origins 3;19 "The skyroof above was darkened and lowered". So I ask could this be happening?
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Initalone on January 13, 2011, 04:40:51 PM
I am not attempting to contradict anyone’s posts. I have seen many references lately stating that the Mastodons found were flash frozen.  When I first learned about the  prior pole shifts, is was commonly told of the discovery of Mastodons found with food in their stomachs. This was thought to be an evidence of a rapid geographical shift.  Now, the common understanding is that the animals were flash frozen.  Is there other evidence to give this indication?   
 Using Hollywood's "Jurassic Park", the Mastodon should be closely related to an elephant.  What I have read about them is that it takes roughly 2 and a half days for them to digest food.  The food stays in their stomach most of this time.  It is conceivable that it could have taken days for the animals to freeze and still have food in their stomach.

http://www.andrews-elephants.com/elephants-faq.html
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Hammerhead on January 13, 2011, 06:04:39 PM
That is real "Day After Tomorrow" type stuff there guys. Just watched it again and remember the scene with the Woolly Mammoth frozen with food in it's stomach and the big movie feature, the hurricane like storm that brought eh super cold air down from the troposphere. instant freeze! There has been more than one occasion of Sci-Fy becoming Sci-Fact.
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: ASEEKERTOO on January 13, 2011, 06:35:25 PM
I am not attempting to contradict anyone’s posts. I have seen many references lately stating that the Mastodons found were flash frozen.  When I first learned about the  prior pole shifts, is was commonly told of the discovery of Mastodons found with food in their stomachs. This was thought to be an evidence of a rapid geographical shift.  Now, the common understanding is that the animals were flash frozen.  Is there other evidence to give this indication?   
 Using Hollywood's "Jurassic Park", the Mastodon should be closely related to an elephant.  What I have read about them is that it takes roughly 2 and a half days for them to digest food.  The food stays in their stomach most of this time.  It is conceivable that it could have taken days for the animals to freeze and still have food in their stomach.

http://www.andrews-elephants.com/elephants-faq.html
You are absolutely correct Initalone. Just as with just about any discussion there will be those that are 'pro' and 'con' to a theory.
I have seen documents stating that Mammoths were not flash frozen. If I remember correctly the article said something about them
having 5 stomachs or digestion processes...... Many people, myself included, do not believe 100% that mammoths froze within Xminutes
or hours. The gist of the whole idea is that something froze them at an accelerated rate because they did not leave an area of
danger. Not to mention that tropical or subtropical flora was present underneath the ice. Er..... still green flora stopped in its tracks
from growing.........

Use      http://www.google.com/                       and use phrases such as                        Mammoths Siberia Research Papers         and
see what pops up. I got blue in the face reading both sides of the argument................

The idea of outer atmosphere intrusion is one of the many theories. I've also read documents detailing the type of 'hair'
that mammoths had were NOT suited for wet and snow conditions as the type of hair did not allow for air entrapment used for
insulation.............. But yes, there are contradicting 'papers' out there that support the fact that mammoths did not necessarily die in a flash
frozen way. Whether it happened in 1 hour or 3 days is moot in a way. The facts SEEM to support the idea that a extremely quick change
in temperature took place.

  If the radar image from a reputable weather station says there was an atmospheric anamoly at the same time that birds flying at
1,000+ feet fell from the sky then it just makes me wonder 'what if'.......... not 'this is what it was because it happened in 12,000 bc.

Glad you posted the other side of the coin as I am too wordy as it is and was hoping someone would add their 2 cents. thanks

 
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Initalone on January 13, 2011, 07:30:27 PM
No problem, as stated, it is a discussion board.  I agree that the message sent was that the animals were thrust into a rapid change.  Days or minutes, it was over for them.

There's no doubt anything is possible.... I am just hopeful that this atmospheric phenomenon doesn't happen beyond the level we have seen.   We have enough to worry about!  There would be little we could do to prepare for it.

Thanks
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: 1969quartz0 on January 14, 2011, 05:02:40 AM
Initalone you said There would be little we could do to prepare for it.


If it is anything like the movie the The day after tomorrow. The worst part is short term only a few hours like a storm, but it would be a tough to get by after and then if needed migrate to a warmer area if you could even get that info. with limited contact after.
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Initalone on January 14, 2011, 06:13:17 AM
   I guess my mindset was working with the concept of poisonous gas from the upper atmosphere being brought close to earth due the erratic changes in the magnetosphere.  What I am thinking is that it would be impossible to know where or when the conditions would occur.  I shouldn't have said impossible to prepare, with enough resources ,those who are still connected possibly could use weather radar to track noctolucent clouds.  Those in the areas where conditions are predicted could live in an atmospherically controlled bunker, or wear a gasmask until the air is said to be safe.
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Yowbarb on January 14, 2011, 08:54:20 AM
Interesting ideas you Members are posting.
I am going to move this up to the front page again and post it "Sticky" so it might be there awhile.
Take Care,

Yowbarb
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: augonit on January 14, 2011, 09:23:41 AM
What would the temperature have to be to flash freeze  things?  I would think it would have to be close to liquid hydrogen!
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: 1969quartz0 on January 14, 2011, 11:34:04 AM
Initalone I just want everyone to prep as much as possible, some of us will not make it but the more we work at it the better.
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Bill on January 14, 2011, 11:45:18 AM
If indead poisonous gas is what killed the birds, then we may have to consider having a gas mask within reach. I think with practice all could learn to put one on within a few seconds 20-30. It would depend on you knowing when to put it on, seeing animals dying or people dropping, your practice and training could save your life! I have been meaning to add good NBR gas mask to my inventory, I now will move them to the top of my list!
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: ASEEKERTOO on January 14, 2011, 12:00:14 PM
Initalone I just want everyone to prep as much as possible, some of us will not make it but the more we work at it the better.

outer space is -459 F. I reckon if there was any way possible for the space enviroment to get down to earths surface then
it would not be a good day. However, given everything that has been discussed on the subject of flash frozen mammoths; I
would not be surprised if NEW science says that it did not happen. Some researchers say yes; some say no. To me, flash
frozen doesn't necessarily mean instantly. There is way too much info out there to give a short one paragraph synopsis on
the subject. :) :)
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Bill on January 14, 2011, 12:32:28 PM
I think where the birds are concerned gas is more likely then flash frozen, If the birds were frozen then fell to the earth they would not show the damage that the birds were reported to have had. Also I would think that with frozen birds we would have heard of a windshield or two being broken. Now a mammouth is all together different, but I wonder how long it takes to freeze something covered in hair and that large.
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Ed Douglas on January 14, 2011, 02:39:50 PM
Good discussion going on here.My 2 cents are, that the magnetosphere is involved, and magnetics used for directional markers for animals. I was driving to the store today, and there was a small flock of blackbirds, and we met at about the same time. No problem, no Kaikaze birds. Made me think, tho.   ed
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Bill on January 14, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Saw a flock of about 200 Canadian geese land today, seems a bit early.
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: ASEEKERTOO on January 14, 2011, 06:51:37 PM
Good discussion going on here.My 2 cents are, that the magnetosphere is involved, and magnetics used for directional markers for animals. I was driving to the store today, and there was a small flock of blackbirds, and we met at about the same time. No problem, no Kaikaze birds. Made me think, tho.   ed
Yep. A weak magnetosphere and Sun Activity conditions that mankind has not seen in a very long time could come together to
produce events that we can not comprehend. A pulse of cold air is a scenario that may or may not be possible but in my mind
a weakened protective shield like the magnetosphere may be a variable that could make  an event like that happen.
  How I managed to 'divert' the topic to flash frozen mammoths I'll never know lol, but it happened.
  A poisonious gas burst is possible also I guess; in that the atmosphere is and always has been a chemical soup to some extent.
Once upon a time the atmosphere had Hydrogen Cyanide as a component. Correct me if I am wrong anyone but I saw something
in a paper that METHANE could eventually break down with other factors involved into HCN. [ producing other chemicals as well]
I don't have to mention, more than likely, how the atmosphere may have gotten an infusion of Methane in the recent past.........................
Other sources of NEW methane in the atmosphere is from the Tundra thawing in Northern latitudes. Gasses that were once trapped
in icebound conditions have vaporized into the atmosphere. How much is anybodys guess but just bringing it up................
 Discussions like this are an excercise in 'what if's'. All I want to know is the real answer of why Birds from the sky fell and why a
weather anomaly on radar would show up.............. :)

[well, let me put this here]
 Hydrogen cyanide is a colorless, flammable liquid or gas that boils at 25.7° C and freezes at -13.2° C. The gas rarely occurs in nature, is lighter than air, and diffuses rapidly; it is usually prepared commercially from ammonia and methane at elevated temperatures with a platinum catalyst.
Don't know what to think of the above statement, still mulling it over.


Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Ed Douglas on January 15, 2011, 07:57:54 AM
The ingredients are there, in the upper atmosphere, with increased methane leakage from much of the ocean bottoms. Does the phenomena  happen or not, is waiting for results from labs, on what killed these animals.   ed
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Yowbarb on January 15, 2011, 01:27:32 PM
Saw a flock of about 200 Canadian geese land today, seems a bit early.

Bill, what latitude if you don't mind my asking?
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Bill on January 15, 2011, 02:29:11 PM
Barb, I'm at 40.
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Scales on January 15, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
Poles moving ? I can see that, it was reported many years ago.

If it has a link with the birds, then what about the fish ?

Just as the heat melting the polar ice comes from underneath, so too does the gas killing birds and fish alike in similar areas.

There is much need for discernment.

Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Lori on January 16, 2011, 08:43:15 AM
I just had a thought.  Suppose whenever one of these clouds comes down from the atmosphere the gas and extreme cold come down with it tornado like.  They are only brief lived but are strong enough to effect whatever life is under it and instantly sickens them, may the be fish or birds or other animals.  Maybe even people. 

My son stepped outside when we heard the booms to see what was going on.  He was sick in two days.  If he had had the flu everyone else in the family would have been sick too.  No once else in the family did get sick.  Thankfully it only lasted two days.  But whose to say how it will effect animals. 

By the way We have a large gathering of blackbirds over our neighborhood.  This happens every spring but not this early.  It gave me an eerie feeling watching them.

Just a few thoughts.
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Scales on January 16, 2011, 06:58:32 PM
Booms are becoming more publicized as well as slightly more common. Where earth movement is separational they are heard. Four or five states have at least a few areas where they have been heard for years.

When the earth reaches the point of winter solstice, it is leaning out at the farthest point. When it reverses the lean and begins the travel back to the upright position (Equinox) the shift of land mass follows after a slight delay. This is why these things occurr quite noticeably more-so during the two to three weeks following the winter solstice. Kind of like a creaking rocking chair.

The pole movement has affected the birds, but certainly not enough to kill. What is perplexing to folks is that it is all revealed instantly without explaination.

Slight pole movement may cause birds to be slightly out of place or the beaching of whales from time to time. But it is not the only thing that causes such things.

Booms, dead packs of birds and fish of many varieties, in locations where there is separation of certain rock and the time of year have combined to cause this. That it is instantly reported is new and quite a good sign.

http://blogs.discovery.com/animal_oddities/2010/05/transformer-owl.html
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Jimfarmer on January 16, 2011, 08:09:47 PM
"When the earth reaches the point of winter solstice, it is leaning out at the farthest point. When it reverses the lean and begins the travel back to the upright position (Equinox) the shift of land mass follows after a slight delay."

Nope.  The Earth's lean of 23.5 degrees does not change.  What does change is it's position in it's orbit around the sun.  At Winter Solstice time, the Earth's position in it's orbit places it so that the direction of "lean" -- usually called "tilt" -- is pointing away from the Sun as much as possible in the Northern hemisphere.

From http://www.weeklyreader.com/node/543 (http://www.weeklyreader.com/node/543) :
[start quote]
Earth tilts at an angle of 23½ degrees

It has to do with Earth's spinning and circling. Earth spins on its own axis in space as it travels around the sun. The spinning gives us day and night. The orbiting gives us the seasons. As it spins, Earth is tilted at an angle of 23½ degrees. That never changes. But as the Earth orbits the sun, the Northern Hemisphere sometimes tilts toward the sun and other times away from it—depending on its position in the orbit. Earth travels around the sun in an elliptical, or oval-shaped, orbit.

Earth orbit

When the Northern Hemisphere tilts away from the sun, the temperatures there are cooler and there's less daylight. It's winter. The Southern Hemisphere, meanwhile, tilts toward the sun and receives direct sunlight—it's warmer and there are more hours of daylight. For that part of the world, it's summer. In the Southern Hemisphere, the times of the solstice are reversed. For example, if you lived in Australia, December 21 would be the longest day of the year, not the shortest.

The winter solstice occurs when the Northern Hemisphere is the farthest from the sun.
[end quote]
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Yowbarb on January 17, 2011, 08:20:54 AM
Barb, I'm at 40.

Wow you are pretty far north... so geese don't usually come BACK there now, in the middle
of the winter?
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Bill on January 17, 2011, 08:56:54 AM
I don't remember seeing them this early, however it is possible that they are from further south and are wintering in this area
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Scales on January 17, 2011, 09:00:53 PM
Tilt , Lean....same result each year at the same time.

Cycles of wobbles and placement of the moon during certain points also has an effect.

Birds and insects also have many cycles.

http://www.artstrology.com/articles-time.htm
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Yowbarb on January 17, 2011, 09:19:34 PM
I don't remember seeing them this early, however it is possible that they are from further south and are wintering in this area

I'm not sure how that works, with the migrations of birds. (Where they end up.)
Once when we lived far south - about 3 hours from the MX border we would get these beautiful little tropical birds. On a really hot day we had a sprinkler going for the kids and the birds were literally swooping in and flying through the water. We feel they came from farther south where it must have been even hotter.
I had never seen these birds farther north like in L.A. so I felt they had migrated to our area to stay for the rest of the hot season.
I'm only saying this because it seems odd to me you would get ducks or geese in the middle of the winter... Did you say they are coming from the south?
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Earth' magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds linked to mysteriou
Post by: Bill on January 18, 2011, 04:35:37 AM
The formations I saw were flying in from the NW,  where they originated from I dont know. The ones that come to my pond every year,usually don't come till late Feb, they nest and raise the young ones and take off somewhere to the north.