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Title: Zetas
Post by: JKB on March 02, 2011, 07:03:54 PM
OK, I really hope that I am not creeping into Planet X/Poleshift sacrilege territory here, however, I have a serious question...  I know that most of you have at least heard of the Zetas and probably been to their website.  I have been reading it a lot lately.  For one thing, I flat out find the information on there extremely interesting.   Secondly, most of it makes sense to me.  My question is this:  how credible do all of you think the Zeta website is and do all of you believe them?  There, I said it...  Please respond.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: noproblemo2 on March 02, 2011, 08:27:55 PM
It is one of the site that I follow also. I try to follow many and gather the info I need to make my own personal decisions based on all that I read.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: JKB on March 02, 2011, 08:30:43 PM
So, you believe them Baja Susan?  I do and I feel crazy for it.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: noproblemo2 on March 02, 2011, 08:42:56 PM
So, you believe them Baja Susan?  I do and I feel crazy for it.
Lets say that I believe "some" of what they say. In this day and age anything is possible so I am open to their ideas.  This being said so as not to endorse any said group that I may or may not follow. I see these things as personal choice.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: JKB on March 02, 2011, 08:50:12 PM
Understood.  Thank you for your response. 
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: noproblemo2 on March 02, 2011, 09:07:53 PM
Understood.  Thank you for your response.
You're welcome, anytime
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: _cj_ on March 02, 2011, 11:44:35 PM
So, you believe them Baja Susan?  I do and I feel crazy for it.

Good morning JKB - whats normal anyway ??  I'm sure if i found normal i wouldn't want to be it  :P

With regard to beliefs, there are many different beliefs on this forum, and you know what, at the moment very few can be proved right or wrong.  If you have found something that you believe in and it doesnt do anyone any harm then great,  I try and keep one eye open to any possibility

Regards,

alex
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Alfred Williams on March 03, 2011, 06:16:54 AM
Well put cj We must make our own minds up on an examination on everything to find what feels right for you. The Zetas are just one group that has taken the study seriously and we must weigh all knowledge to our circumstance{{:>)
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: noproblemo2 on March 03, 2011, 07:22:17 AM
Well put cj We must make our own minds up on an examination on everything to find what feels right for you. The Zetas are just one group that has taken the study seriously and we must weigh all knowledge to our circumstance{{:>)
Agreed, learn all we can and adapt that knowledge to our individual needs.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Dania22 on March 03, 2011, 10:16:43 AM
Yes, it's whatever works for you. For me, my "collective whole" is...........The Bible. I believe it in it's entirety and try to live my life to the best of my ability, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of me. This works for me. I also appreciate some of what the Zeta'a writes. It's your journey and you get to select your guides.....
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: augonit on March 03, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
JKB, you shouldn't feel weird about having different opinions on this forum.  I know how you feel about posting stuff that goes against the grain.  Heaven knows I've done it plenty of times.  As to your question about the Zetas, I personally don't put much stock into anything that is channeled, which as far as I can tell is where the Zeta info comes from.  I am suspicious about where the channeling person is coming from:  demonic or is the person faking it? 
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Ed Douglas on March 03, 2011, 12:45:19 PM
I try to collect data from all sources, including the 'Zetas', to use, to try and make a reasonable 'assumption' of what is really happening. Until there is absolute proof, there is nothing more than educated assumptions. I try to be open about any possible source, unless proven otherwise.   ed
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Carluccio_piattino on March 03, 2011, 07:57:44 PM
OK, I really hope that I am not creeping into Planet X/Poleshift sacrilege territory here, however, I have a serious question...  I know that most of you have at least heard of the Zetas and probably been to their website.  I have been reading it a lot lately.  For one thing, I flat out find the information on there extremely interesting.   Secondly, most of it makes sense to me.  My question is this:  how credible do all of you think the Zeta website is and do all of you believe them?  There, I said it...  Please respond.

JKB,

Here follows my personal comments on the Zetas.

It is one of the sites I always check. I like their assessment of what is happening with the plates in the western Pacific side or Indo-Australian plate, which currently includes Indonesia slow sink. I also like their ideas on future land configuration on the planet, plus their ideas on the Service-To-Self and Service-To-Other beings (including aliens of course).

There is one thing that I do not feel comfortable in their assessment though, and this is related to PX whereabouts, and on its current effects to Earth orbit, plus the existence of Earth's twin sister planet at 180 degrees always hidden from us by the Sun.

For me, it makes more sense that Elenin is in fact Nibiru than accept that PX (or Nibiru) is within solar system inner planets surroundings since 2003.

But again, that is it, my humble opinion.

I usually do what Ed said. I collect data from everywhere. With all this coverup one cannot afford to discard anything, not even Zetas ideas about PX.

I also try (I am learning) to use my heart besides mind and logic, to detect what is close to the truth and what is too farther out. The reason for that is that I believe that one's experience in life, here on Earth 3D or elsewhere is one's own unique and not bad or good. Then what your heart tells you what is the truth there you have it !  This is rolling outside already the scope of your question and it is indeed another topic for another thread.

By best to you and be very welcome with your comments.

Carlos

Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: JKB on March 03, 2011, 08:26:16 PM
Thank you all for your responses and insightful guidance.  I very much appreciate it and will take it to heart.  I do check many different sites and don't put all of my eggs in the proverbial one basket.  I do also find their information on the shifting plates to be credible and a good source for information that we are not getting by the MSM.  I guess what  is getting me wrapped around the axle is that if they are who they say they are, and I have no reason to believe they are or are not, then I have to seriously evaluate my system of beliefs, i.e. The Bible, what I have been raised to believe my entire life.  I also like what they have to say about the service-to-self and service-to-others and it somehow resonates with me.  I don't know, it's a big pill to swallow.  It sounds like none of us really know for sure and I suppose there is no way to.  I really do appreciate everyone's thoughtful response and the time you took to give it.  Thank you all.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Alfred Williams on March 04, 2011, 07:24:12 AM
JKB, I truly have enjoyed reading your response. I have a deep love for all creatures and that will include our visitors that are already popping up and hope my faith will guide me when they come and they will come to an area near you. I am a strong Christian and I have seen an unbelievably large craft  of the semi "Independence Day" size . I have been hyper analytical toward both the Bible, growing up and later as a  I found myself . My personal experiences have only strengthened my resolve in understanding what is happenning{{:>)
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Jimfarmer on March 04, 2011, 08:59:19 AM
"I have to seriously evaluate my system of beliefs"
Welcome to the club.

You might try dowsing in order to ask your subconscious mind about the truth (or otherwise) of statements from any source.  See https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=437.msg3000;topicseen#msg3000 (https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=437.msg3000;topicseen#msg3000) .
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: billy861 on March 05, 2011, 09:10:52 PM
Hi all, this will be my very first post to the PXtownhall... Been following along ever since I saw a video on the web (a few months back) with Marshall speaking about the 5 stages of catastrophism (I think that's how u spell it :)... That video spoke about me and my past 5 years.. I've been through the stages.. what a ride :)
   OK, now, I know nothing about the topic "Zeta's" except for the tid bits of info I've read from this post. All of you seem to be very intelligent, thoughtful, and thought provoking people.. I have been coming to this forum and just reading and following along, but this time I felt compelled to jump in..
Along my road of the past 5 years I have come to learn a lot about spiritual warfare. One thing I have not seen or heard mentioned much in this town hall or on the blog talk radio show, is "God". I have no doubt that it is God who has touched our lives, and has given us this inner knowledge of something HUGE coming to all mankind. There is one person in this thread who mentioned her strong belief in the Bible, which is where I am at also. God has shown me a lot, Jesus is the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords. With this said, if this Zeta site is operating through some sort of channeling, then no good can come from it. The word of God warns us of this. They may have the ability and the power, but it does not come from God. So be careful, very careful..
Same thing with aliens (non-human beings) They won't be our friends, so again, be careful!
    Something that caught my attention, is the two suns looming on the horizon. I know people who have seen two suns in their dreams.. I have read about people in Holy sites who have seen two suns. Miracles of the Sun are not something new, Joshua 10:13. The Miracle of the Sun 10/13, 1917.. The warnings have been coming for many years..
     In the Bible, the words "do not fear" appear 365 times. That's one "do not fear" for every day of the year!
Peace be with you, be prepared, but most of all, trust in God! and PRAY, PRAY, PRAY, every day ;D
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: noproblemo2 on March 06, 2011, 04:41:33 AM
Welcome to Town Hall billy861.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: 1969quartz0 on March 06, 2011, 05:13:57 AM
Welecom billy861 glad to have you here.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: billy861 on March 06, 2011, 09:25:45 PM
     Thank you Alfred, thank you all for the welcome :-) I certainly understand the no fear Al, thanks :) About the aliens, yes, I do believe we are all Gods creatures, good and bad. The warning on the aliens is just that, while they too were created by God, I do believe they are the fallen ones.. I could be wrong, but it's just a huge gut hunch! You are RIGHT ON!!! in regards to praying for every soul (including our enemies).. I believe this is the task God has placed before me..
    That is a beautiful thought you have on meeting up with those you mentioned, that will be a great reunion :) I will pray that when your time comes, those are the people who will greet you.. I will see both my Mom and Dad, along with many others, but Jesus first for sure :-) God speed to you also Alfred Williams  <---- my 1st name "William" means - Determined Protector!  I aim to live up to my name  ;D God Bless...
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Hammerhead on March 07, 2011, 06:08:07 AM
Billy....my take on aliens is that they are of God as is anything in this universe, but they never dealt with original sin...Adam & Eve. I believe in God's infinite wisdom has created MANY races of beings in this universe and has administered His test to all. Some pass the test, some do not. We are stuck with the original sin and thus are tied to this wicked monetary system and love of possessions and not of our fellow man. Service to self over service to others. Alien beings with FTL (faster than light) technology have been visiting us for a LONG time. Why? Not sure, curiosity I guess. But I also believe that some alien races are evil, but have been around for so long have also acquired the FTL technology and are here to harm us. These evil aliens failed the test, but "stole" the technology from other races. Maybe a better term for it is "reverse engineering"....hmmmm that sounds familiar (Area 51?). Just a few thoughts I though I'd share. Peace to you... ;)
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: inselemel on April 30, 2011, 02:32:00 PM
Hi, i thought i would put my tuppence worth in. I may be wrong and please feel free to correct me but aren't the Zeta's, the greys. If these are being channeled and tho i do believe some channelings are true (Pleiades through The Crystal Skull ebooks)  i also believe some are not and either the ego of the said person or bad spirits (i am sure hitler etc do not become nice people when they die and there is a lot of those sort of people about 3rd dimension & in spirit) but if these are genuinely from the Zetas i still think a note of caution should be applied.

Anyway, i believe Free Will is a given and any angel expert will say the same, you can ask for guidance/help etc but ultimately it is your call at the end of the day - Free Will. If the Zeta's are the greys then they allegedly have broken the code of Free Will numerous times (to put it mildly) if the thousands of reports around the world of abductions are anything to go by, again some if not a lot will be made up but it still leaves an awful lot that i believe are genuine. Any one whether human or alien or hybrids who subjects anyone to  anal probes :o, harvesting of human eggs and sperm  :o :o against their own free will, (recently reading 'Aliens Why are they here' - by Bryan Appleyard) should like the various governments etc of this world who also break this code not be trusted. They may tell the truth about Plate tectonics etc but i agree with Hammerhead on the point that there are some aliens that are not good and i personally believe these are the Greys.

In the e-book 'Beyond the Veil of Time' the monitors from Pleiades say that the Tall, Blonde Scandanavian looking Aliens (Pleiadeans) have been perceived by those who they are trying to rescue from the grey's experiments.  I also think it wouldn't be passsed the arrogance, greed and disrespect of Earth's governments to have an exchange programme going on - FTL aircraft technology etc for the promise they (the governments) won't try to shoot down alien spaceships or take seriously the abduction allegations.

As said above everybody has or should have the right to free will and their own personal beliefs, these are just mine but i DO hope we found out soon.

Melanie
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Jimfarmer on April 30, 2011, 07:32:35 PM
"aren't the Zeta's, the greys"

Yes, but there are multiple races of greys, just as there are other extraterrestrials that look exactly like Earth humans.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: inselemel on May 01, 2011, 04:20:17 AM
Thanks for the clarification.

I would also think there is a tendency in 'abductees' to develop somethink akin to the 'Stockholm Syndrome' as per Wikipedia

"In psychology, Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors as an act of kindness.[1][2] The FBI’s Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.[3] The syndrome is named after the Norrmalmstorg robbery of Kreditbanken at Norrmalmstorg in Stockholm, in which the bank robbers held bank employees hostage from August 23 to August 28, 1973. In this case, the victims became emotionally attached to their captors, and even defended them after they were freed from their six-day ordeal. The term "Stockholm syndrome" was coined by the criminologist and psychiatrist Nils Bejerot, who assisted the police during the robbery, and referred to the syndrome in a news broadcast.[4] It was originally defined by psychiatrist Frank Ochberg to aid the management of hostage situations."

I believe that this can also be caused by indoctrination as was the case with a recent abduction (human) in Europe where by the abductor convinced the girl that her parents didn't care for her and she was better of with him. There is also the feeling that the abductee is 'special' and has been indoctrinated that way to believe they were chosen because they are special and therefore defend their abductors whether human or alien.

As a great man once said in 1985 "Blind faith in your leaders or anything can get you killed"
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Ed Douglas on May 01, 2011, 09:36:48 AM
This might not fit in with alien abductions where they are probed and examined. I understand that there is usually little to no communication, and they are treated like a bug under a microscope.   ed
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: inselemel on May 01, 2011, 10:08:16 AM
oops sorry for putting the post in the wrong category, it's just my observations on reading lots of accounts on the matter, sorry again
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: JKB on May 03, 2011, 08:21:01 PM
Wow, I guess that is what I get for "being too busy to log in," for awhile...   Some outstanding, thought-provoking conversation going on here...  Welcome billy861 to the townhall...  Glad to have you.  I originally started this thread because of much of what you had to say on your first post Billy.  I have personally jumped all over the "organized religious spectrum" over the course of many years, to include an extended stay in the Pentecostal camp, so to speak...  Needless to say, I have read the Bible many, many times...  I never bothered memorizing books and verses so as to impress someone, i.e. "Well, in the book of ..... verse ....., God tells us ....."  However, I know the Bible.  I was just having a conversation with a friend of mine a week or so ago and from nowhere, the words came out of my mouth, "Oh wretched man that I am.  For that which I would do, I do not.  And that which I ought not to do, that I do!"  The Apostle Paul said something to that effect in one of the books that he wrote.  At any rate, knowing the jist of it all is more important than being able to quote it or getting a star on some posterboard for your church attendance, I think.  There is a wealth of wisdom in the Good Book.  That being said, that is really why I wanted to talk about this.  There was a time I would have tied myself to a stake and set myself on fire for heresy for even thinking about the legitimate possibility of alien existence because it isn't in the Bible.  Obviously, I have allowed my mind, over the years, to entertain other ideas and possibilities.  I will tell you right now that I do not have the answer.  Sorry to disappoint you.  I wish I did because this is the first place I would come if I had it.  Bottom line... I have allowed myself permission to ponder the possibility that there still is a GOD that knows both us and others.  Maybe we were not capable of grasping the knowledge of others' existence 6000 years ago.  Maybe the aliens, though doubtful, have their Bible that doesn't mention us and they are curious.  Maybe, and this is the possibility that I really do not want to accept, however, think I have to at least consider, and that is  maybe the aliens are our God.  I am well aware of the prophecy from the Bible that, in the end days, "Even the very elect will be deceived."  I am not saying that I am "the elect."  Far from it.  And, I could go another mile down the Bible path and the prophecy road...   

Bottom line: When I said that I have questioned my beliefs and maybe even changed them, this is the point I have arrived at...  What if aliens were God to the Israelites and subsequent Muslim population...  All of this Grey and Blue and "good greys" and "bad greys"... I don't know.  Could they be God and the Devil?  Maybe our forefathers couldn't describe it any other way...   Maybe a few opportunistic individuals saw the ca ass at the time and created the "Church" and have reaped the benefits ever since...   Maybe I am sh*t-nuts...  Maybe, the Bible is true and this is all just a test of our faith...   I don't know...  I would like to think that there is order to the solar system and the universe and that God is God and that everything the Bible says about God is true.  I still believe that and I guess that is faith.  What do you all think?
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: billy861 on May 03, 2011, 11:25:44 PM
Hi JKB, I would really love to respond to this, but for one, it's late, 2, I'm tired, and 3, I think I need to ask for permission to speak..
Moderator? Is this the proper forum to speak about religion? With out preaching, I'd like to tell my story.. About what happened to me 5 years ago, that could shed some light, and give reason to why I found myself in this townhall....
May I please? Yea or Nay? Thumbs up, or down?

Thank you in advance either way...
Sincerely,
William..
PS: Not to many call me Billy any more.. I use my 1st borns name... He's Billy the tird...ooops, I mean the third ;D   he use to say that when he was like 3 years old.. I'd say "Tell em your name son" and he'd reply "I'm William Kennedy the tird"
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: Ed Douglas on May 04, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
Billy, opinions and statements are fine, as long as they don't attack or demean anyone else.    ed
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: billy861 on May 10, 2011, 07:30:09 PM
OK, I promise, I shall not attack nor demean..  I'll get to posting this soon.. and, thank you ;D
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: CharlieLittle on May 11, 2011, 04:35:43 AM
I'm pretty much where JKB is in relation to their last post concerning faith.  I've probably made a post or two that did not set well with some and those are probably a result of my personal experiences within the modern day traditionalistic church. I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking any particular person but religion has left a bad impression on me.  I'm not sure what I think of the Zeta's and their talk but then again I'm not sure of alot of things.

I was ordained as a minister some years ago, preached and taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ for 15 years in many different denominations of churches.  My home church was originally Cumberland Presbyterian but had during my time there left the denomination and took on the title of "non denominational".

The more I read the Bible and became closer to God, it seems the more I was convinced there was something amiss in the church as a whole.  I'm basically talking about the power of God or rather lack thereof among those who call themselves by His Name.  Where is God in the church and in the people? I mean really? If somebody falls out due to high blood pressure or some child bangs their head on a pew we call an ambulance or rush them out to the doctor to keep from interrupting the service.  If a drunk happens to wander in we call the cops and have them removed.  If the music isn't to our liking we gripe and complain and have sensless arguments over paving the parking lots or the color of paint on the walls or shingles on the roof.  I could go on and on.  I dare say there is more real love and power of God among those in the world than among those in the churches.

Personally I believe something Jesus said about in the parable of the mustard seed, which He did not explain the meaning of to His disciples. Ya'll can read and research it if you like, focus on the "birds of the air".  These are the same birds which swoop down and devour the seeds in the parable of the sower. The evil ones.  The mustard seed was the Word which was sown by Christ,  grew into the large tree which is the Church and now the birds of the air lodge in its branches.  The church is full of evil in my opinion and I won't have any more to do with it.  The evidence is there and there is more evidence of God working through folks out in the world than in church. 

I do not believe all of what is written in the Bible as being from God.  I believe much of God's word as He meant for it to be was taken out or edited by the evil King James and the whole dang thing from then up to now is the big deception.  I believe alot of folks are going to be shocked and surprised when the poop hits the fan and we stand before God and the sheep are separated from the goats.

Having said all that I just recently got word that God is doing a great work in and among the missionaries and people in Belize, Central America and there is real evidence of faith such as real healings, dead people being raised and people being bitten by poisonous snakes and not even getting sick.  I'm getting my passport and going soon, likely to stay.

Is/are aliens our diety? I really don't care.  I definitely know there are other beings.  We sure have made a mess of things so I hope we get some help from somewhere. Zeta's seem to be looking out for our good.  More than I can say for traditionalistic religion, in my opinion.   

 



 
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: inselemel on May 11, 2011, 06:56:11 AM
I am totally with Charlie's remarks with regards to " I dare say there is more real love and power of God among those in the world than among those in the churches." For me personally i believe in Universal Energy as a posed to God energy but the principal is the same, i personally believe Jesus was a messenger but his teachings got hijacked by the then crumbling Roman Empire and instead of brute force and conquering of peoples and lands they added 'Holy' on to their title and ruled by religion instead with the all to frequent return to brute force.

The history of Western Europe shows such things as the churches oppression of the Cathars which was a very bloody and ruthless 'crusade' against alleged heresy, while they were basically Gnostic's.  There have been and still are great works that the Church does but i personally think it is based on a lie that only Jesus was son of god, whereas everyone is son of god, (or the Universe in my opinion). I have personally come up against criticism as well and ones who say they are the 'Christians' do certainly not act like it and i don't believe that Jesus would not of wished to have places so full of gold and material things in order to pray or hear his teachings.

I am also with Charlie on his adjective of King James I.

As noted on another of my posts i believe that us earthlings or some of us anyway had to go through monotheism for a reason in history and now we are 'breaking on through to the other side' as more and more people become aware that it is not whether you sit in a church/synagogue/mosque/temple that makes you a good person it is what is inside i.e. Love and the Love Energy to me is the most important thing. Treat others (including animals, the earth in general as well) as you wished to be treated. This should probably be in another topic but i was just commenting on Charlie's last post.  As regards the greys, i am still not convinced that they are benevolent to Earth and us Earthlings but that opinion and the opinions of this post is just my opinions and i don't mean to offend anybody and sorry if i do.
Title: Re: Zetas
Post by: ASEEKERTOO on July 07, 2011, 12:24:21 PM
' Zeta Movie 2'.
This is long but covers a wide range of information concerning the coming
Earth Changes. Zetatalk is included in here as well as Prophecy.
A little over 2 hours long !
Do a 'Search' on YouTube for     ZETA MOVIE 2 and find it. There is some humor
in there as well and some curse words........................
CTRL +  will magnify the screen for a larger video experience.  CTRL -   will
put the screen back to normal at 100 %.