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Yowbarb - SURVIVING the CHANGES => SURVIVING the CHANGES => Topic started by: Icon on November 07, 2010, 11:25:48 PM

Title: The need for fire.
Post by: Icon on November 07, 2010, 11:25:48 PM
I was rather bored tonight, so started looking up books, links and articles dealing with the need for fire. And found very few.
Making and controlling fire was probably the greatest discovery man ever came across. It allowed us to cook, clear land, stay warm, make tools and weapons.
If things get as bad as predicted, we will be starting over once again, and fire will be greatly needed to do so.
One would think there would be more articles on why we will need fire to rebuild civilization if it crashes, not just for survival campfires.
Anyone finding articles please post them here,,, would love to read them.
Title: Re: The need for fire.
Post by: Lori on November 08, 2010, 05:10:32 AM
I think too, that fire has been a part of faith.  Several Churches have a Sanctuary Lamps which represents the Holy Spirit.  I also believe it dates back to Pre-Biblical times as a sign of Life.  The Holy Spirit represents a living flame.  A Living Flame that fills people with the Spirit of God.  It brings in Speaking of Tongues and healing.   The Eternal Flame burns on Kennedy's grave.

An eternal flame is a flame or torch that burns day and night for an indefinite period. The flame that burned constantly at Delphi[1] was an archaic feature, "alien to the ordinary Greek temple".[2]
The eternal fire is a long-held tradition in many cultures and religions. It is a religious aspect of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, in which the Menorah, a seven branched candelabra, would burn continually. In Jewish tradition, the practice began when the Hebrew prophet Moses oversaw the construction of the original menorah for the Israelite Tabernacle. The concept was later assimilated into Persian religions Zoroastrianism and into other Abrahamic religions.[citation needed] Judaism continues this tradition by having a Ner Tamid flame always lit above the Ark in the synagogue. An eternal flame constantly tended by a dedicated priest is also a feature of Zoroastrian religious culture that involved the Amesha Spenta Atar (Old Persian âdar, Middle Persian âtaxš). According to Greek and Persian accounts, three "Great Fires" existed in the Achaemenid era of Persian history, which are collectively the earliest evidence of the eternal flame.[3]
A sanctuary lamp, altar lamp, everlasting light or eternal flame is a light that shines before the altar of sanctuaries in many denominations of Jewish and Christian places of worship.[1] Prescribed in Exodus 27:20-21 of the Hebrew Bible, this icon has taken on different meanings in each of the religions that have adopted it. The passage, which refers to prescriptions for the tabernacle, states:
“   And thou shalt command the children of Israel, that they bring thee pure oil olive beaten for the light, to cause the lamp to burn always. In the tabernacle of the congregation without the veil, which is before the testimony, Aaron and his sons shall order it from evening to morning before the LORD: it shall be a statute for ever unto their generations on the behalf of the children of Israel. (KJV)

Title: Re: The need for fire.
Post by: noproblemo2 on November 08, 2010, 07:55:58 AM
Found this one.
Title: Re: The need for fire.
Post by: Icon on November 08, 2010, 09:12:20 AM
Found a book "Fire and Civilization" by Johan Goudsblom. Think I might oder it,, I did a check on U-tube and it seems to be a decent book, but repeats itself near the end.
I think if people knew more of why fire will be important to us, the more they will learn various ways to make it. Even in simple everyday life, it will be a tool our lives will depend on, and so much more in rebuilding society.
Some of the most important jobs, from 100 years ago, to several thousands of years, was the blacksmith and weapons makers.  They will be again at some point.
Title: Re: The need for fire.
Post by: Yowbarb on November 14, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Just remembered something tonight.... the need for old fashioned percolator coffee pots... to make coffee
on a camp fire.... or whatever fire cooking source is being used. Could be a propane stove being used briefly inside a dome, etc.

Also If there was no electricity at least people could use their coffee and make percolator coffee.
I stopped using them because of the aluminum basket but hey bettter to have coffee than not, eh?
- Yowbarb

Title: Re: The need for fire.
Post by: noproblemo2 on November 14, 2010, 05:55:04 PM
Try looking in thrift shops, got mine there. Also camping toasters, solar showers are good to have on hand, either a camping store or maybe Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: The need for fire.
Post by: Icon on November 14, 2010, 08:19:21 PM
You can always throw coffee in a pot of hot water, let it boil a while then strain it,,, or wait till the grounds settle and pour it from the pot.
Title: Re: The need for fire.
Post by: Yowbarb on July 27, 2011, 06:29:16 AM
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