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Can/will Service-To-Others survive?
« on: June 03, 2011, 08:05:25 PM »
Here is an interesting version of survival dynamics from the Zetatalk Q&A weekly report for June 4, 2011, (released early) at .

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[Q:] In the last couple years, the Chinese government, and its navy has been harassing our Vietnamese fishman: attacking and kill our fishman, sink our boats and kidnapped and ask for ransom ; and all of these activities occurred in our sea territory, systematically and until now. Last week they destroy our equipment for exploring natural resources. They (Chinese navy) also attacking other countries in the South East Asia, violating other country's sea interests. My question is that: if the top Chinese leaders were in the know, like Zetas stated, knowing that the pole shift is coming, what is their purpose of expansion, harassing, provoking and violating our country (sea) and other countries in the region? We are a small country, and there is no match in this warlike, conflict with big power like China; what is the possible, we as Vietnamese, strategy for us to promote peace without surrendering our territory (sea)?

[A:] Unfortunately, this type of activity will only increase as the Earth changes, and starvation, increase. Attempts to take from other groups will increase, whether they be another country, another corporation, another farmer, or a charity collecting foodstuffs for the starving. This type of strong-arming is nothing new. In those countries where the UN is importing foodstuffs for the starving, only a fraction of what is delivered by the UN arrives. If outright theft from the warehouses is not occurring, foodstuffs are wrenched from the hands of those who were handed a bag of rice. Nothing is done about these practices because the police are bribed with a portion of the take.

Even without the certain conflict between survivor camps and looting gangs, these conflicts will exist on an individual level. One neighbor may simply come over and take another's cow or goat, or steal produce from the garden at night. Borders between countries will not be honored during times such as the coming pole shift, when the populace in one country presses forward into another country and the border guards are nowhere to be found. Governments will falter and fail, because all will be starving and many insane, and their ability to feed their military or civil servants will fail. Paper money will be worthless, and financial obligations ignored, and only the barter of real goods and food will matter.

As with the continuing polarization of the populace, where the good hearted find each other and group together and leave the selfish to fend for themselves, these skirmishes will eventually wear down. There are many reasons for this trend. As with the Arab Spring, where Star Children are incarnating as walk-ins into those human bodies where no soul has sparked, such maneuvers can shift the balance of power. The selfish do not help each other, and thus broken machinery or boats are not repaired, nor are broken limbs. The selfish find themselves sick and dying, with their mates turning a deaf ear on their pleas. Good hearted farmers or fishermen may have to migrate and join other survivors to have the strength in number to be able to repel looting or take-over attempts. But eventually, only the good hearted remain!
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Re: Can/will Service-To-Others survive?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2011, 09:05:20 AM »
If that isn't some eyeopening statements then I don't know what is.  :)

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Re: Can/will Service-To-Others survive?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 06:03:08 PM »
We have youth raised well grounded and some kids grow up with little guidance except the TV. Few families are immune. The best thing for a group is to settle down the upset without harm to the group. We will be facing tough choices indeed.
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Re: Can/will Service-To-Others survive?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 06:25:32 PM »
"But at the same time for my humanity to survive I don't know how I would react in the situation. I'm tempted to ask the Zeta's about that."

That question, or similar, has been asked of the Zetas a few times.  I was not able to locate the version or answer that I remember exactly, but perhaps this tidbit will suffice for now.

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The characteristics, caring vs selfishness, are not always easy to discern.

ZetaTalk: Key Characteristics, written by Jul 15, 1995
    There is a common misunderstanding, that being that Service-to-Others is all bleeding heart concern and the Service-to-Self is snarling greed. Nothing could be further from the truth. These animals come in various sizes and shapes. One must look for the key characteristics, in fact, to even identify them. An example, look to ourselves. We are Service-to-Others Zetas. Do we not defend ourselves? Do we not have particular goals we press? Do we lie down and let others walk all over us? Yet we are concerned for the general welfare and work hard to improve this for ourselves as well as others.

    Likewise, the Service-to-Self are often misunderstood. As we have mentioned elsewhere, they can be charming and diplomatic. The key is the goal, not the goal stated, which may be packaged to appeal to those to be duped, but the actual goal. A reduction in pollution laws, packaged as enabling employers to stay in business, is in fact a power play by those who resent any restrictions on their power. The unemployment rate has nothing to do with this, but is waved about as a reason. Wives are familiar with the common husband excuse for late hours and avoidance of home chores. The job requires this, and the wife should bear in mind who is slaving away to bring home the bacon.

    In sum, the Service-to-Others individual may be gruff, distracted, disheveled, and inaccessible. But what are they working toward? How do they react when a truth test comes, where they must be willing to sacrifice themselves for others? Do they come through? And the Service-to-Self individual may be suave, seemingly generous, even defending others. But when their welfare is lined up against another, when they must truly share and words are asked to be replaced by actions, what then?

Actions are the key, how the individual acts when the chips are down, or acts in general.
Since a fa├žade can be so easily worn by the selfish, the Zetas have given some examples on how to discern.

ZetaTalk: Distinguishing Characteristics, written May 15, 1996
    A great deal of confusion reigns regarding the spiritual orientations, and how to determine whether someone is leaning in this direction or that. Key characteristics may come into play when the chips are down, but this is seldom the situation and most of life allows the true orientation to be masked by personality, subterfuge, or such structured situations that the orientation of the individual does not have an opportunity to express.

    Take the example of an office setting, where assignments are meted out to individuals but team work is stressed. To the manager, the extroverted young man recently hired may seem to be doing more than his share, at least to hear him talk, as he has many stories detailing how his expertise or enthusiasm for challenge came to the rescue of the group. But check with the individual members of the team, and one learns that the reverse is true, as he was the one who required rescuing and feigned ignorance until other members of the long-suffering team did his work for him. When he gets a raise and a nod, the team is puzzled, as it would not occur to them to report him to the manager for taking more than he is giving. They considered him in need of help, a youth in need of guidance, and took him under their wings. This type of going behind the back and taking credit is a frequent sign that the individual is operating primarily in the Service-to-Self, or is heading in that direction.

    * Take an example in the military, where soldiers train and then suddenly find themselves on the front lines in a conflict. During training exercises, the officers in charge can be lead greatly astray by bravado in safe and controlled exercises. Those individuals who excelled, exhorted their fellows to greater efforts, and who showed leadership are assumed to do the same in battle. Yet more often than not, it is the quiet soldier who made no efforts to take the spotlight who must step into the fray and assume the true leadership position. This de facto leader may find himself put into danger, deliberately, so the leader with the title can take credit afterwards. Dead men tell no tales, and the record in combat stands at odds with the awards and promotions, so any rumors are discounted. Placing someone else in danger to retain a title or position is a strong sign of an individual in the Service-to-Self, and rarely occurs unless the individual has made their orientation decision.

    * Take the example of a nurse, required by law and the rules of the hospital where she works to maintain life in her patients regardless of the level of unremitting pain they are experiencing or the pleas they may be laying before her. She has at risk her job, her status, her ability to support her family financially, and most certainly her freedom should she be persecuted under the law, but she determines to listen to those pleas. Certain medications that sustain the living dead, the writhing mass of agony that is in a certain death march, are flushed down the toilet rather than forced into the arm of the patient. Who is to know? Most certainly the patient, who can barely speak except to whisper pleas, will not complain. This type of risk taking, when there is utterly no benefit to the self but rather great risk to the self, is a strong sign of an individual in the Service-to-Other.

    * Take the example of children in a household where the mother is ill, chronically so, and the children expected to assume her responsibilities. The father works long and hard, and has no patience with chores undone. Some of the younger children need help with their chores, especially as they fail to watch the clock and can be caught rushing to do them when father walks in. The oldest is a girl who herself slips her chores to her younger siblings, leaving them half done so it is not clear who was inattentive. If this girl is to dry and put away the dishes but another child is to set the table, she places the dried dishes on the table rather than into the cupboard, confusing the issue. That her little brother gets whipped for pulling too many dishes out of the cupboard bothers her not. She thinks of hairstyles and makeup and meeting the right boy at the mall. The chips can fall where they may. This type of lack of concern for others can be attributed to inattention, but where one has seen a sibling whipped and can anticipate this in the future, it is not inattention but lack of regard, a sure sign of an individual oriented to themselves, in the Service-to-Self.

    * In this same example, one of the younger children, a boy, does half the chores for two of his siblings. He works with them, showing them how to do the chores, and in this way not only makes sure the chores are done but are done to the exacting father's measure. In this he doesn't take credit for the chores, but praises his siblings. He also gives up after-school games and parties to ensure that his siblings aren't caught with poorly done chores, knowing the father is awash in fatigue and worry and can take all this out on the household if given half an excuse. This boy, still only a child himself, is giving evidence of his strong orientation in the Service-to-Others. The characteristics are not only that he is helping others, but that he seeks to make them strong and self sufficient and will sacrifice his own pleasure to ensure that others do not suffer.

When ready to leave our first schoolhouse, Earth, souls who have been born here must be separated. Else the selfish, given more technology, will use it to take more advantage of their good hearted neighbors.
Those who have been able to take advantage of others suddenly find themselves reincarnated into Hell, where they must live among others like themselves. This is, in fact, what Hell is, the self centered living among their own kind. Heaven, of course, is where the caring and empathic have only others of a like mind about. Heaven and Hell, truly of our own making.
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