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Jimfarmer

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2011, 08:59:19 AM »
"I have to seriously evaluate my system of beliefs"
Welcome to the club.

You might try dowsing in order to ask your subconscious mind about the truth (or otherwise) of statements from any source.  See https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=437.msg3000;topicseen#msg3000 .

billy861

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2011, 09:10:52 PM »
Hi all, this will be my very first post to the PXtownhall... Been following along ever since I saw a video on the web (a few months back) with Marshall speaking about the 5 stages of catastrophism (I think that's how u spell it :)... That video spoke about me and my past 5 years.. I've been through the stages.. what a ride :)
   OK, now, I know nothing about the topic "Zeta's" except for the tid bits of info I've read from this post. All of you seem to be very intelligent, thoughtful, and thought provoking people.. I have been coming to this forum and just reading and following along, but this time I felt compelled to jump in..
Along my road of the past 5 years I have come to learn a lot about spiritual warfare. One thing I have not seen or heard mentioned much in this town hall or on the blog talk radio show, is "God". I have no doubt that it is God who has touched our lives, and has given us this inner knowledge of something HUGE coming to all mankind. There is one person in this thread who mentioned her strong belief in the Bible, which is where I am at also. God has shown me a lot, Jesus is the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords. With this said, if this Zeta site is operating through some sort of channeling, then no good can come from it. The word of God warns us of this. They may have the ability and the power, but it does not come from God. So be careful, very careful..
Same thing with aliens (non-human beings) They won't be our friends, so again, be careful!
    Something that caught my attention, is the two suns looming on the horizon. I know people who have seen two suns in their dreams.. I have read about people in Holy sites who have seen two suns. Miracles of the Sun are not something new, Joshua 10:13. The Miracle of the Sun 10/13, 1917.. The warnings have been coming for many years..
     In the Bible, the words "do not fear" appear 365 times. That's one "do not fear" for every day of the year!
Peace be with you, be prepared, but most of all, trust in God! and PRAY, PRAY, PRAY, every day ;D

noproblemo2

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2011, 04:41:33 AM »
Welcome to Town Hall billy861.

1969quartz0

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2011, 05:13:57 AM »
Welecom billy861 glad to have you here.

billy861

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2011, 09:25:45 PM »
     Thank you Alfred, thank you all for the welcome :-) I certainly understand the no fear Al, thanks :) About the aliens, yes, I do believe we are all Gods creatures, good and bad. The warning on the aliens is just that, while they too were created by God, I do believe they are the fallen ones.. I could be wrong, but it's just a huge gut hunch! You are RIGHT ON!!! in regards to praying for every soul (including our enemies).. I believe this is the task God has placed before me..
    That is a beautiful thought you have on meeting up with those you mentioned, that will be a great reunion :) I will pray that when your time comes, those are the people who will greet you.. I will see both my Mom and Dad, along with many others, but Jesus first for sure :-) God speed to you also Alfred Williams  <---- my 1st name "William" means - Determined Protector!  I aim to live up to my name  ;D God Bless...

Hammerhead

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 06:08:07 AM »
Billy....my take on aliens is that they are of God as is anything in this universe, but they never dealt with original sin...Adam & Eve. I believe in God's infinite wisdom has created MANY races of beings in this universe and has administered His test to all. Some pass the test, some do not. We are stuck with the original sin and thus are tied to this wicked monetary system and love of possessions and not of our fellow man. Service to self over service to others. Alien beings with FTL (faster than light) technology have been visiting us for a LONG time. Why? Not sure, curiosity I guess. But I also believe that some alien races are evil, but have been around for so long have also acquired the FTL technology and are here to harm us. These evil aliens failed the test, but "stole" the technology from other races. Maybe a better term for it is "reverse engineering"....hmmmm that sounds familiar (Area 51?). Just a few thoughts I though I'd share. Peace to you... ;)

inselemel

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2011, 02:32:00 PM »
Hi, i thought i would put my tuppence worth in. I may be wrong and please feel free to correct me but aren't the Zeta's, the greys. If these are being channeled and tho i do believe some channelings are true (Pleiades through The Crystal Skull ebooks)  i also believe some are not and either the ego of the said person or bad spirits (i am sure hitler etc do not become nice people when they die and there is a lot of those sort of people about 3rd dimension & in spirit) but if these are genuinely from the Zetas i still think a note of caution should be applied.

Anyway, i believe Free Will is a given and any angel expert will say the same, you can ask for guidance/help etc but ultimately it is your call at the end of the day - Free Will. If the Zeta's are the greys then they allegedly have broken the code of Free Will numerous times (to put it mildly) if the thousands of reports around the world of abductions are anything to go by, again some if not a lot will be made up but it still leaves an awful lot that i believe are genuine. Any one whether human or alien or hybrids who subjects anyone to  anal probes :o, harvesting of human eggs and sperm  :o :o against their own free will, (recently reading 'Aliens Why are they here' - by Bryan Appleyard) should like the various governments etc of this world who also break this code not be trusted. They may tell the truth about Plate tectonics etc but i agree with Hammerhead on the point that there are some aliens that are not good and i personally believe these are the Greys.

In the e-book 'Beyond the Veil of Time' the monitors from Pleiades say that the Tall, Blonde Scandanavian looking Aliens (Pleiadeans) have been perceived by those who they are trying to rescue from the grey's experiments.  I also think it wouldn't be passsed the arrogance, greed and disrespect of Earth's governments to have an exchange programme going on - FTL aircraft technology etc for the promise they (the governments) won't try to shoot down alien spaceships or take seriously the abduction allegations.

As said above everybody has or should have the right to free will and their own personal beliefs, these are just mine but i DO hope we found out soon.

Melanie

Jimfarmer

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2011, 07:32:35 PM »
"aren't the Zeta's, the greys"

Yes, but there are multiple races of greys, just as there are other extraterrestrials that look exactly like Earth humans.

inselemel

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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2011, 04:20:17 AM »
Thanks for the clarification.

I would also think there is a tendency in 'abductees' to develop somethink akin to the 'Stockholm Syndrome' as per Wikipedia

"In psychology, Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors as an act of kindness.[1][2] The FBI’s Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.[3] The syndrome is named after the Norrmalmstorg robbery of Kreditbanken at Norrmalmstorg in Stockholm, in which the bank robbers held bank employees hostage from August 23 to August 28, 1973. In this case, the victims became emotionally attached to their captors, and even defended them after they were freed from their six-day ordeal. The term "Stockholm syndrome" was coined by the criminologist and psychiatrist Nils Bejerot, who assisted the police during the robbery, and referred to the syndrome in a news broadcast.[4] It was originally defined by psychiatrist Frank Ochberg to aid the management of hostage situations."

I believe that this can also be caused by indoctrination as was the case with a recent abduction (human) in Europe where by the abductor convinced the girl that her parents didn't care for her and she was better of with him. There is also the feeling that the abductee is 'special' and has been indoctrinated that way to believe they were chosen because they are special and therefore defend their abductors whether human or alien.

As a great man once said in 1985 "Blind faith in your leaders or anything can get you killed"

Ed Douglas

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2011, 09:36:48 AM »
This might not fit in with alien abductions where they are probed and examined. I understand that there is usually little to no communication, and they are treated like a bug under a microscope.   ed

inselemel

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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2011, 10:08:16 AM »
oops sorry for putting the post in the wrong category, it's just my observations on reading lots of accounts on the matter, sorry again

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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2011, 08:21:01 PM »
Wow, I guess that is what I get for "being too busy to log in," for awhile...   Some outstanding, thought-provoking conversation going on here...  Welcome billy861 to the townhall...  Glad to have you.  I originally started this thread because of much of what you had to say on your first post Billy.  I have personally jumped all over the "organized religious spectrum" over the course of many years, to include an extended stay in the Pentecostal camp, so to speak...  Needless to say, I have read the Bible many, many times...  I never bothered memorizing books and verses so as to impress someone, i.e. "Well, in the book of ..... verse ....., God tells us ....."  However, I know the Bible.  I was just having a conversation with a friend of mine a week or so ago and from nowhere, the words came out of my mouth, "Oh wretched man that I am.  For that which I would do, I do not.  And that which I ought not to do, that I do!"  The Apostle Paul said something to that effect in one of the books that he wrote.  At any rate, knowing the jist of it all is more important than being able to quote it or getting a star on some posterboard for your church attendance, I think.  There is a wealth of wisdom in the Good Book.  That being said, that is really why I wanted to talk about this.  There was a time I would have tied myself to a stake and set myself on fire for heresy for even thinking about the legitimate possibility of alien existence because it isn't in the Bible.  Obviously, I have allowed my mind, over the years, to entertain other ideas and possibilities.  I will tell you right now that I do not have the answer.  Sorry to disappoint you.  I wish I did because this is the first place I would come if I had it.  Bottom line... I have allowed myself permission to ponder the possibility that there still is a GOD that knows both us and others.  Maybe we were not capable of grasping the knowledge of others' existence 6000 years ago.  Maybe the aliens, though doubtful, have their Bible that doesn't mention us and they are curious.  Maybe, and this is the possibility that I really do not want to accept, however, think I have to at least consider, and that is  maybe the aliens are our God.  I am well aware of the prophecy from the Bible that, in the end days, "Even the very elect will be deceived."  I am not saying that I am "the elect."  Far from it.  And, I could go another mile down the Bible path and the prophecy road...   

Bottom line: When I said that I have questioned my beliefs and maybe even changed them, this is the point I have arrived at...  What if aliens were God to the Israelites and subsequent Muslim population...  All of this Grey and Blue and "good greys" and "bad greys"... I don't know.  Could they be God and the Devil?  Maybe our forefathers couldn't describe it any other way...   Maybe a few opportunistic individuals saw the ca ass at the time and created the "Church" and have reaped the benefits ever since...   Maybe I am sh*t-nuts...  Maybe, the Bible is true and this is all just a test of our faith...   I don't know...  I would like to think that there is order to the solar system and the universe and that God is God and that everything the Bible says about God is true.  I still believe that and I guess that is faith.  What do you all think?
You have to let it all go Neo.  Fear, doubt, and disbelief...  Free your mind.

billy861

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« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2011, 11:25:44 PM »
Hi JKB, I would really love to respond to this, but for one, it's late, 2, I'm tired, and 3, I think I need to ask for permission to speak..
Moderator? Is this the proper forum to speak about religion? With out preaching, I'd like to tell my story.. About what happened to me 5 years ago, that could shed some light, and give reason to why I found myself in this townhall....
May I please? Yea or Nay? Thumbs up, or down?

Thank you in advance either way...
Sincerely,
William..
PS: Not to many call me Billy any more.. I use my 1st borns name... He's Billy the tird...ooops, I mean the third ;D   he use to say that when he was like 3 years old.. I'd say "Tell em your name son" and he'd reply "I'm William Kennedy the tird"

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« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2011, 10:05:30 AM »
Billy, opinions and statements are fine, as long as they don't attack or demean anyone else.    ed

billy861

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Re: Zetas
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2011, 07:30:09 PM »
OK, I promise, I shall not attack nor demean..  I'll get to posting this soon.. and, thank you ;D

 

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