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Title: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on April 26, 2011, 08:09:02 PM
Station Location:
The New Center of German Research in Antarctica - Neumayer Station III

Ekström Shelf Ice, Atka Bay, north-eastern Weddell Sea
Position: 70°40'S, 008°16'

Webcam site: http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html (http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html)

Some interesting photos from 4-26-2011

I'm really not exactly sure what we a looking at here, but it is BIG! after referring to Stellarium, I believe photos 2+3 show the moon rising around 23-0:00 GMT. The moon should be 51% visible and based on the sensitivity of the camera, I believe this is true.

Now the $24,000 question...photo 1. If that is not the moon which it cannot be since the moon is @ 51% visibility, what is it? Wish I could see it again, but the latest cam sequence is fuzzy during these times.

I will keep checking the site for a confirmation of both these objects if they ever let that time be shown again. Hmmmm...
Title: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on April 26, 2011, 08:09:02 PM
Station Location:
The New Center of German Research in Antarctica - Neumayer Station III

Ekström Shelf Ice, Atka Bay, north-eastern Weddell Sea
Position: 70°40'S, 008°16'

Webcam site: http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html (http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html)

Some interesting photos from 4-26-2011

I'm really not exactly sure what we a looking at here, but it is BIG! after referring to Stellarium, I believe photos 2+3 show the moon rising around 23-0:00 GMT. The moon should be 51% visible and based on the sensitivity of the camera, I believe this is true.

Now the $24,000 question...photo 1. If that is not the moon which it cannot be since the moon is @ 51% visibility, what is it? Wish I could see it again, but the latest cam sequence is fuzzy during these times.

I will keep checking the site for a confirmation of both these objects if they ever let that time be shown again. Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object
Post by: gagan on April 26, 2011, 08:26:29 PM
nice shot. I wonder what that is ? I went to their website and tried to find that particular picture or others
like it but evidently they only have a days worth of pictures up. The next days pictures overwrites the
previous days. You downloaded it just in time................
I did watch a 1 day movie of the still pictures and for what it is worth; the star field moved from right
to left. So, the object did too I guess.
Good find.   Oh, and they sure aren't kidding when they say they have WhiteOut snow conditions on a
moments notice !

Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object
Post by: marshall on April 26, 2011, 08:26:29 PM
nice shot. I wonder what that is ? I went to their website and tried to find that particular picture or others
like it but evidently they only have a days worth of pictures up. The next days pictures overwrites the
previous days. You downloaded it just in time................
I did watch a 1 day movie of the still pictures and for what it is worth; the star field moved from right
to left. So, the object did too I guess.
Good find.   Oh, and they sure aren't kidding when they say they have WhiteOut snow conditions on a
moments notice !

Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object
Post by: gagan on April 26, 2011, 08:39:27 PM
I did watch a 1 day movie of the still pictures and for what it is worth; the star field moved from right
to left. So, the object did too I guess.
Good find.   Oh, and they sure aren't kidding when they say they have WhiteOut snow conditions on a
moments notice !
Yes right to left movement on both objects. I really hope for better conditions in the nights ahead. This object needs to be identified or at least monitored, because no one in the populated part of the world is seeing it!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object
Post by: marshall on April 26, 2011, 08:39:27 PM
I did watch a 1 day movie of the still pictures and for what it is worth; the star field moved from right
to left. So, the object did too I guess.
Good find.   Oh, and they sure aren't kidding when they say they have WhiteOut snow conditions on a
moments notice !
Yes right to left movement on both objects. I really hope for better conditions in the nights ahead. This object needs to be identified or at least monitored, because no one in the populated part of the world is seeing it!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object
Post by: gagan on April 26, 2011, 09:14:01 PM
I did watch a 1 day movie of the still pictures and for what it is worth; the star field moved from right
to left. So, the object did too I guess.
Good find.   Oh, and they sure aren't kidding when they say they have WhiteOut snow conditions on a
moments notice !
Yes right to left movement on both objects. I really hope for better conditions in the nights ahead. This object needs to be identified or at least monitored, because no one in the populated part of the world is seeing it!
Bad News.  >:(  On April 28th at around 10:38 AM CST [ don't know what time that would be there ] the moon
SETS. It will not rise again in the eastnortheast sky till May 12th at around 14:40PM CST....... If an object
that big shows up after the 28th then it isn't the moon.  :)
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object
Post by: marshall on April 26, 2011, 09:14:01 PM
I did watch a 1 day movie of the still pictures and for what it is worth; the star field moved from right
to left. So, the object did too I guess.
Good find.   Oh, and they sure aren't kidding when they say they have WhiteOut snow conditions on a
moments notice !
Yes right to left movement on both objects. I really hope for better conditions in the nights ahead. This object needs to be identified or at least monitored, because no one in the populated part of the world is seeing it!
Bad News.  >:(  On April 28th at around 10:38 AM CST [ don't know what time that would be there ] the moon
SETS. It will not rise again in the eastnortheast sky till May 12th at around 14:40PM CST....... If an object
that big shows up after the 28th then it isn't the moon.  :)
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on April 26, 2011, 11:39:42 PM
Hammerhead, awesome Topic, thanks!
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on April 26, 2011, 11:39:42 PM
Hammerhead, awesome Topic, thanks!
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on May 12, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
New photos from Neumayer captured 5-12. Hard to explain, but in Stellarium the moon should be out in front of the station like one of the photos above. HOWEVER these shots do not show an object in the skies in front of the station, BUT behind the camera! So where is the moon? Stellarium clearly shows the moon in the same location around 4-26 and today.  So if the Moon is casting the shadow the there are 2 objects in the skies that cannot be explained on 4-26. However if we accept that one of the 2 objects on 4-26 is the moon, the what is causing the shadow on the most recent photos? Something is going on down there that no one can see!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on May 12, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
New photos from Neumayer captured 5-12. Hard to explain, but in Stellarium the moon should be out in front of the station like one of the photos above. HOWEVER these shots do not show an object in the skies in front of the station, BUT behind the camera! So where is the moon? Stellarium clearly shows the moon in the same location around 4-26 and today.  So if the Moon is casting the shadow the there are 2 objects in the skies that cannot be explained on 4-26. However if we accept that one of the 2 objects on 4-26 is the moon, the what is causing the shadow on the most recent photos? Something is going on down there that no one can see!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on May 12, 2011, 08:19:18 PM
The short Answer is that is the Shadow of the Communications Radar Dome Tower.
Set Stellarium to 23:00 GMT or the time of the photograph. Then input the Coordinates
for the Research Station which are :   
Ekström Shelf Ice, Atka Bay, north-eastern Weddell Sea
Position: 70°40'S, 8°16'00"W

The Radom Array is North of the Building in the picture and is looking South. [ to my understanding ]
The Sun is way below the Horizon. [ to my understanding ]
The MOON is in the West NorthWest area of the sky; low on the Horizon and is about 3/4 full offering
plenty of light.

It is just a shadow from one of the structures out there and probably is the same structure housing the
Webcam that took the pic.

What Longitude and Latitude was used to set up Stellarium ? To set up my Stellarium I hit the F6 key
and got the pointer in the General area that I wanted it then just changed the numbers as needed
in the coordinate boxes. I got the loccation  of the Station off of the main webpage for them.
I'm glad you told us about those Webcams because I check on it every now and then just not lately.
Keep looking Hammerhead.  ;D
  Ah, found the Picture of the Area.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on May 12, 2011, 08:19:18 PM
The short Answer is that is the Shadow of the Communications Radar Dome Tower.
Set Stellarium to 23:00 GMT or the time of the photograph. Then input the Coordinates
for the Research Station which are :   
Ekström Shelf Ice, Atka Bay, north-eastern Weddell Sea
Position: 70°40'S, 8°16'00"W

The Radom Array is North of the Building in the picture and is looking South. [ to my understanding ]
The Sun is way below the Horizon. [ to my understanding ]
The MOON is in the West NorthWest area of the sky; low on the Horizon and is about 3/4 full offering
plenty of light.

It is just a shadow from one of the structures out there and probably is the same structure housing the
Webcam that took the pic.

What Longitude and Latitude was used to set up Stellarium ? To set up my Stellarium I hit the F6 key
and got the pointer in the General area that I wanted it then just changed the numbers as needed
in the coordinate boxes. I got the loccation  of the Station off of the main webpage for them.
I'm glad you told us about those Webcams because I check on it every now and then just not lately.
Keep looking Hammerhead.  ;D
  Ah, found the Picture of the Area.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on May 12, 2011, 08:39:22 PM
Seeker, thanks. Now the other half of my observation. If the moon rises/sets in the same location and has the same arc then it would never be in front of the camera, correct? If that is correct then we have 2 unidentified celestial objects in the 4-26 pics. Amazing!

Can you confirm my thinking on the moon's position relative to the camera/station?

As far as Stellarium, I did what you did and entered the coordinates from the station's website.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on May 12, 2011, 08:39:22 PM
Seeker, thanks. Now the other half of my observation. If the moon rises/sets in the same location and has the same arc then it would never be in front of the camera, correct? If that is correct then we have 2 unidentified celestial objects in the 4-26 pics. Amazing!

Can you confirm my thinking on the moon's position relative to the camera/station?

As far as Stellarium, I did what you did and entered the coordinates from the station's website.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on May 13, 2011, 07:08:43 AM
Seeker, thanks. Now the other half of my observation. If the moon rises/sets in the same location and has
the same arc then it would never be in front of the camera, correct? If that is correct then we have
2 unidentified celestial objects in the 4-26 pics. Amazing!  Can you confirm my thinking on the moon's
position relative to the camera/station?
         As far as Stellarium, I did what you did and entered the coordinates from the station's website. 
      If the moon rises/sets in the same location and has the same arc then it would never be
in front of the camera, correct?  Can you confirm my thinking on the moon's position relative to the
camera/station? 
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   I can not confirm that by Stellarium. With Stellarium you have to Zoom out the Picture all the way. Then hit F3 to
type in the object you want, ie, the moon. Then hit F6 to open up the Time/Day change box. Relocate the
Box out of the way. Move the window around by 1 leftclick on the mouse and position the moon where
you want it on the screen. Then go back to the Time/Day Box and change the time by increments of 1 hour.
The Moon AND the Sun do a little dance along the Horizon of the Sky. Sometimes they reach a pretty good
Azimuth or Height but usually they stay pretty low. You may have to got to the Time/Day change box and
increment by a day and process through a couple of months to see the changes in the rise and set locations.
I couldn't tell you right now when the Moon will be back to the location it was in about 3 weeks ago when
it was photographed in the Southern Sky behind the Research Station but someday it will do it again.  ;)
     From what I can see, the Sun and Moon do pass in front of the Radar Dome Webcam.
     While I was doing this; I noticed that Asteriod/Comet 2009 BC was at .0032 Away from the Earth and
pulling away. 2009 BD has made its closest approach. Also, If you run Stellarium, notice how the Planets
are grouped very tightly together near the Sun. ........ ......... The Sun Rises and Set Quickly today; I think it
only stays in the sky for about 7 hours.
     I am going to keep looking at the Webcam in the South Pole from time to time because you never know
what could come into view !   Regards Aseek
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on May 13, 2011, 07:08:43 AM
Seeker, thanks. Now the other half of my observation. If the moon rises/sets in the same location and has
the same arc then it would never be in front of the camera, correct? If that is correct then we have
2 unidentified celestial objects in the 4-26 pics. Amazing!  Can you confirm my thinking on the moon's
position relative to the camera/station?
         As far as Stellarium, I did what you did and entered the coordinates from the station's website. 
      If the moon rises/sets in the same location and has the same arc then it would never be
in front of the camera, correct?  Can you confirm my thinking on the moon's position relative to the
camera/station? 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   I can not confirm that by Stellarium. With Stellarium you have to Zoom out the Picture all the way. Then hit F3 to
type in the object you want, ie, the moon. Then hit F6 to open up the Time/Day change box. Relocate the
Box out of the way. Move the window around by 1 leftclick on the mouse and position the moon where
you want it on the screen. Then go back to the Time/Day Box and change the time by increments of 1 hour.
The Moon AND the Sun do a little dance along the Horizon of the Sky. Sometimes they reach a pretty good
Azimuth or Height but usually they stay pretty low. You may have to got to the Time/Day change box and
increment by a day and process through a couple of months to see the changes in the rise and set locations.
I couldn't tell you right now when the Moon will be back to the location it was in about 3 weeks ago when
it was photographed in the Southern Sky behind the Research Station but someday it will do it again.  ;)
     From what I can see, the Sun and Moon do pass in front of the Radar Dome Webcam.
     While I was doing this; I noticed that Asteriod/Comet 2009 BC was at .0032 Away from the Earth and
pulling away. 2009 BD has made its closest approach. Also, If you run Stellarium, notice how the Planets
are grouped very tightly together near the Sun. ........ ......... The Sun Rises and Set Quickly today; I think it
only stays in the sky for about 7 hours.
     I am going to keep looking at the Webcam in the South Pole from time to time because you never know
what could come into view !   Regards Aseek
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on May 13, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
Thanks for the assist, Seeker! Eyes to the Skies!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on May 13, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
Thanks for the assist, Seeker! Eyes to the Skies!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on May 18, 2011, 09:14:40 PM
Mystery solved! I couldn't believe it, but what is being seen in the 1st shots is the moon then a LENS FLARE! I just figured it out tonight after watching the video. The moon is full and passes behind the station, then after it goes by the mystery object appears. HOWEVER this time you can see the faint outline on the station (1910) prior to it going into the sky (1950). Still a great webcam to keep an eye on, but now I know what I am seeing!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on May 18, 2011, 09:14:40 PM
Mystery solved! I couldn't believe it, but what is being seen in the 1st shots is the moon then a LENS FLARE! I just figured it out tonight after watching the video. The moon is full and passes behind the station, then after it goes by the mystery object appears. HOWEVER this time you can see the faint outline on the station (1910) prior to it going into the sky (1950). Still a great webcam to keep an eye on, but now I know what I am seeing!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 09, 2011, 07:55:03 AM
Don't know about everybody else but 1 of my 2 brain cells comes to a complete
stop when it tries to figure out what time it is at my location compared to what
time is is at the Neumayer Station.
 So: First, this explains the GMT and UTC time designation and also has time
zone conversion charts.
  http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/gmt/ (http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/gmt/)
Here is a much easier chart to use but it only converst to Central Standard
time and Central Daylight Time because it is the one I use.
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/central-time/convert/ (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/central-time/convert/)
   Basically, if one is in the Central Time Zone then ADD 6 hours to the local
to get Greenwich Mean Time  [GMT].
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 09, 2011, 07:55:03 AM
Don't know about everybody else but 1 of my 2 brain cells comes to a complete
stop when it tries to figure out what time it is at my location compared to what
time is is at the Neumayer Station.
 So: First, this explains the GMT and UTC time designation and also has time
zone conversion charts.
  http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/gmt/ (http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/gmt/)
Here is a much easier chart to use but it only converst to Central Standard
time and Central Daylight Time because it is the one I use.
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/central-time/convert/ (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/central-time/convert/)
   Basically, if one is in the Central Time Zone then ADD 6 hours to the local
to get Greenwich Mean Time  [GMT].
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 09, 2011, 08:15:30 AM
"but what is being seen in the 1st shots is the moon then a LENS FLARE!"

Can we check the case of the moon?  Since the apparent movements Moon and the Sun across the sky are close, but not coincident, and since the Sun was below the horizon at all hours,  could the Moon have been above the horizon at that time and place?  I will try to check, but someone else might be able to get the data quicker.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 09, 2011, 08:15:30 AM
"but what is being seen in the 1st shots is the moon then a LENS FLARE!"

Can we check the case of the moon?  Since the apparent movements Moon and the Sun across the sky are close, but not coincident, and since the Sun was below the horizon at all hours,  could the Moon have been above the horizon at that time and place?  I will try to check, but someone else might be able to get the data quicker.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 09, 2011, 08:38:49 AM
Ah, here we go.

The Moon did not rise nor set at any time at Neumayer Station on the dates of 17 to 20 May, 2011,  acording to http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_rstablew.pl (http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_rstablew.pl) .
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 09, 2011, 08:38:49 AM
Ah, here we go.

The Moon did not rise nor set at any time at Neumayer Station on the dates of 17 to 20 May, 2011,  acording to http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_rstablew.pl (http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_rstablew.pl) .
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 09, 2011, 08:50:03 AM
Dang, sorry Jim. You got your message in a few seconds before me.
[ took my time posting after that to reverify what I had ]
Here is a stellarium picture of that date and it says the moon was out.
Seeing that Crescent shape on the side of the station in FRONT of it
Hammer was a great catch. Good one.
 
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 09, 2011, 08:50:03 AM
Dang, sorry Jim. You got your message in a few seconds before me.
[ took my time posting after that to reverify what I had ]
Here is a stellarium picture of that date and it says the moon was out.
Seeing that Crescent shape on the side of the station in FRONT of it
Hammer was a great catch. Good one.
 
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 09, 2011, 09:26:32 AM
"here is a stellarium picture of that date and it says the moon was out."

Now that is curious.  Inconsistent information?  My/your mistake somewhere?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 09, 2011, 09:26:32 AM
"here is a stellarium picture of that date and it says the moon was out."

Now that is curious.  Inconsistent information?  My/your mistake somewhere?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 09, 2011, 12:19:49 PM
Good Question Jim. I was just a few seconds from posting when I got a report that
a new message came to the forum. It was yours saying that the moon was not
out. I then rechecked my stuff before I posted.
 Shoot, it would not be the first time I was wrong if I am lol............
Of note is the fact that the Research Station is about 4000 feet above sealevel
and I did set Stellarium to reflect that fact as the default for Stellarium is
something like 3 meters.
  The one real problem I have now about the Research Station since the anomaly
has been explained is the fact that on Google Earth, when one turns on the
Sun/Shadow over the face of the earth; the Research Station stays in the
DARK on google sky but yet the pictures coming from the Station show Blue
Sky.................... for the month of June. References seen say that June
should be a period of no sun for the Research Station. A head scratcher.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 09, 2011, 12:19:49 PM
Good Question Jim. I was just a few seconds from posting when I got a report that
a new message came to the forum. It was yours saying that the moon was not
out. I then rechecked my stuff before I posted.
 Shoot, it would not be the first time I was wrong if I am lol............
Of note is the fact that the Research Station is about 4000 feet above sealevel
and I did set Stellarium to reflect that fact as the default for Stellarium is
something like 3 meters.
  The one real problem I have now about the Research Station since the anomaly
has been explained is the fact that on Google Earth, when one turns on the
Sun/Shadow over the face of the earth; the Research Station stays in the
DARK on google sky but yet the pictures coming from the Station show Blue
Sky.................... for the month of June. References seen say that June
should be a period of no sun for the Research Station. A head scratcher.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 09, 2011, 02:46:39 PM
Quote
The one real problem I have now about the Research Station since the anomaly
has been explained is the fact that on Google Earth, when one turns on the
Sun/Shadow over the face of the earth; the Research Station stays in the
DARK on google sky but yet the pictures coming from the Station show Blue
Sky.................... for the month of June. References seen say that June
should be a period of no sun for the Research Station. A head scratcher.

Welllll,,,, thennnnn,,,   dare I say it???...  Earth tilt
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 09, 2011, 02:46:39 PM
Quote
The one real problem I have now about the Research Station since the anomaly
has been explained is the fact that on Google Earth, when one turns on the
Sun/Shadow over the face of the earth; the Research Station stays in the
DARK on google sky but yet the pictures coming from the Station show Blue
Sky.................... for the month of June. References seen say that June
should be a period of no sun for the Research Station. A head scratcher.

Welllll,,,, thennnnn,,,   dare I say it???...  Earth tilt
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: Ed Douglas on July 10, 2011, 09:49:55 AM
It appears to be true.  ed
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 15, 2011, 07:34:35 AM
Yes fellows. I think therein lies the problem. If nothing else happens, that shift alone is going to cause millions (if not) billions of deaths. So did it pull 5 degrees or so "off" the tilt? That's the only way I can see NSA being in the daylight. Does this mean limited winter/summer on a global scale? Does it also mean ice caps dissapearing? Flooding?
I am just afraid that what we were looking for (as far as catastrophe) might have already happened and the effects are now forthcoming.

Erv
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 15, 2011, 07:34:35 AM
Yes fellows. I think therein lies the problem. If nothing else happens, that shift alone is going to cause millions (if not) billions of deaths. So did it pull 5 degrees or so "off" the tilt? That's the only way I can see NSA being in the daylight. Does this mean limited winter/summer on a global scale? Does it also mean ice caps dissapearing? Flooding?
I am just afraid that what we were looking for (as far as catastrophe) might have already happened and the effects are now forthcoming.

Erv
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 15, 2011, 12:20:19 PM
Caught the perfect orb in the sky again at the station. The moon had just moved
off to the left of the screen like the last time. It was shown that the orb in
question was somehow a 'Ghost effect' of the moon. A spherical aberation was
captured once before that showed the same Ghost Effect on TOP of the station
itself and not behind it............ therefore for now it is ' not real '.
 
 Also, I always wondered if anybody ever went outside at the Station. I saw
two people outside a couple of weeks ago and they were wearing heavy coats
to keep warm but I did not grab that picture.
 I got a picture of some people doing something outside again but they are
wearing what looks like High Insulation Suits. Instead of heavy cloth coats; I
wonder if these are also to block Radiation ? Gamma Rays maybe.  :P   :P 
Both pictures are from the same date. July 14, 2011.....
   The 'Star' under the moon I suspect is a real Tall Mast way in the distance
with a bright light on it. It is sometimes seen in pictures and when seen it is
always in the same position.....
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 15, 2011, 12:20:19 PM
Caught the perfect orb in the sky again at the station. The moon had just moved
off to the left of the screen like the last time. It was shown that the orb in
question was somehow a 'Ghost effect' of the moon. A spherical aberation was
captured once before that showed the same Ghost Effect on TOP of the station
itself and not behind it............ therefore for now it is ' not real '.
 
 Also, I always wondered if anybody ever went outside at the Station. I saw
two people outside a couple of weeks ago and they were wearing heavy coats
to keep warm but I did not grab that picture.
 I got a picture of some people doing something outside again but they are
wearing what looks like High Insulation Suits. Instead of heavy cloth coats; I
wonder if these are also to block Radiation ? Gamma Rays maybe.  :P   :P 
Both pictures are from the same date. July 14, 2011.....
   The 'Star' under the moon I suspect is a real Tall Mast way in the distance
with a bright light on it. It is sometimes seen in pictures and when seen it is
always in the same position.....
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 15, 2011, 04:10:25 PM
May I point out that this crescent looks  identical to the one next to the sun in the Stereo photos? I think that this proves that both are optical flares.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 15, 2011, 04:10:25 PM
May I point out that this crescent looks  identical to the one next to the sun in the Stereo photos? I think that this proves that both are optical flares.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 15, 2011, 05:06:29 PM
For everyones viewing pleasure.
we pretty much know that the moon is causing the anomaly. Even in
this video one can see the 'ghost image' on the side of the station for a
brief instant. The people are pointing at the moon more than likely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjClzik1rO8&feature=channel_video_title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjClzik1rO8&feature=channel_video_title)
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 15, 2011, 05:06:29 PM
For everyones viewing pleasure.
we pretty much know that the moon is causing the anomaly. Even in
this video one can see the 'ghost image' on the side of the station for a
brief instant. The people are pointing at the moon more than likely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjClzik1rO8&feature=channel_video_title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjClzik1rO8&feature=channel_video_title)
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 15, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
 ??? :o  Gilson is convinced other wise.  Its creepy just watching it though. And it does look like radiation suits they are wearing although my guess is some kind of insulation suit with a heating core.   My question is though why is the sun even coming up here?  It shouldn't be.  Not in their winter.  It should be dark 24 hours a day.  Shouldn't it?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 15, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
 ??? :o  Gilson is convinced other wise.  Its creepy just watching it though. And it does look like radiation suits they are wearing although my guess is some kind of insulation suit with a heating core.   My question is though why is the sun even coming up here?  It shouldn't be.  Not in their winter.  It should be dark 24 hours a day.  Shouldn't it?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 15, 2011, 06:30:25 PM
I'm not sure what the sky should really look like during any month.  :)  But
I've always heard that it is Dark at the South pole during the northern
hemispheres summertime. Blue Sky in June/July?; as far as I can tell from reading
about it; no way for June and maybe twilight light for july.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 15, 2011, 06:30:25 PM
I'm not sure what the sky should really look like during any month.  :)  But
I've always heard that it is Dark at the South pole during the northern
hemispheres summertime. Blue Sky in June/July?; as far as I can tell from reading
about it; no way for June and maybe twilight light for july.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: Alfred Williams on July 15, 2011, 07:01:57 PM
The Neumayer station site omits most of the frames. Glad someone has the guts to post it hope more will follow{{:>)

 As I note below:

Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: Ed Douglas on July 16, 2011, 04:53:17 PM
On July 14, 2011, there was no sun at the south pole. Closest it gets is 21 degrees below horizon. Moon-up all day. Moon is 98% illuminated and meridian peaks at 21.4 degrees.    ed
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: Alfred Williams on July 16, 2011, 05:56:53 PM
I had posted in another thread that perhaps the large orb is the rising full moon and it's accompanying lens flare and the big shadow is from the setting of the same full moon with the sun glinting on the horizon.  I may be misreading it but that is what it kind of looks like :-\{{:>)
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 16, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
Ed, ok thanks for the info. looked at today's filmstrip and you see the moon rise then move behind the camera. BUT THEN...blue skies and SUN off camera! Oh my...something is NOT RIGHT! :o :o

3 screen shots:
moon near peak (see shadows), blue sky, no stars, and moon rise

For the few months I've been watching this webcam, the only time color is seen is when the SUN is up and emits enough light for the CCDs to record color.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 16, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
Ed, ok thanks for the info. looked at today's filmstrip and you see the moon rise then move behind the camera. BUT THEN...blue skies and SUN off camera! Oh my...something is NOT RIGHT! :o :o

3 screen shots:
moon near peak (see shadows), blue sky, no stars, and moon rise

For the few months I've been watching this webcam, the only time color is seen is when the SUN is up and emits enough light for the CCDs to record color.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: enlightenme on July 16, 2011, 06:18:12 PM
I agree..I saw it too!!  Way too much bright blue sky/sunny day thing going on down there, what's up with that???
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 16, 2011, 09:30:45 PM
On another board here is listed the pole shift from march that takes us from 23-19 degrees...this would do it wouldn't it? Upright the planet 4+ degrees? We are also wobbling a bit. Polaris is 1.5 degrees farther to the east where I'm located (tonite). Erv
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 16, 2011, 09:30:45 PM
On another board here is listed the pole shift from march that takes us from 23-19 degrees...this would do it wouldn't it? Upright the planet 4+ degrees? We are also wobbling a bit. Polaris is 1.5 degrees farther to the east where I'm located (tonite). Erv
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 22, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
This from The ZetaTalk Newsletter, Issue 303, Sunday July 22, 2012, at http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/issue303.htm (http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/issue303.htm) :

[start extract]
the Dark Twin can still be seen almost nightly from Neumayer Station on Antarctica. We featured this on April 22, 2012 in Issue 290 of this newsletter. This was recently revisited on the Pole Shift ning on July 5, 2012. Approaching midnight at Neumayer Station, the cam is looking back into space toward the West, back along the shared orbit the Dark Twin and Earth share.
(http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/image445.jpg)

Clearly this dim orb is not the Moon nor is it Venus, as a quick check on Skymap shows.  At 21:10 UTC the cam is looking West, the Moon is in the East, and Jupiter and Venus are below the horizon on the West, not visible from this S Pole location.
(http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/image446.jpg)
Many people are confused by reflections of the setting Sun in the windows that house the Neumayer Station cam, thinking these are rising planets. But if they were planets they would be moving with the setting Sun. They are instead going in the opposite direction, proving they are reflections and adjust as the angle of reflection changes. 
(http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/image447.jpg)
[end extract]
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 22, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
This from The ZetaTalk Newsletter, Issue 303, Sunday July 22, 2012, at http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/issue303.htm (http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/issue303.htm) :

[start extract]
the Dark Twin can still be seen almost nightly from Neumayer Station on Antarctica. We featured this on April 22, 2012 in Issue 290 of this newsletter. This was recently revisited on the Pole Shift ning on July 5, 2012. Approaching midnight at Neumayer Station, the cam is looking back into space toward the West, back along the shared orbit the Dark Twin and Earth share.
(http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/image445.jpg)

Clearly this dim orb is not the Moon nor is it Venus, as a quick check on Skymap shows.  At 21:10 UTC the cam is looking West, the Moon is in the East, and Jupiter and Venus are below the horizon on the West, not visible from this S Pole location.
(http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/image446.jpg)
Many people are confused by reflections of the setting Sun in the windows that house the Neumayer Station cam, thinking these are rising planets. But if they were planets they would be moving with the setting Sun. They are instead going in the opposite direction, proving they are reflections and adjust as the angle of reflection changes. 
(http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/image447.jpg)
[end extract]
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 22, 2012, 07:33:48 PM
Sorry folks..this is just a lens flare. I've see that ghost image actually on the building before.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 22, 2012, 07:33:48 PM
Sorry folks..this is just a lens flare. I've see that ghost image actually on the building before.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 23, 2012, 06:41:15 AM
Sorry folks..this is just a lens flare. I've see that ghost image actually on the building before.
In the photo, a cloud appears in front of the object.

Is it true that lens flares always appear to be in front of everything else, since it (the flare) is the result of reflections inside of the camera?

But, you said "on the building".  Are we looking at the same thing in the photo?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 23, 2012, 06:41:15 AM
Sorry folks..this is just a lens flare. I've see that ghost image actually on the building before.
In the photo, a cloud appears in front of the object.

Is it true that lens flares always appear to be in front of everything else, since it (the flare) is the result of reflections inside of the camera?

But, you said "on the building".  Are we looking at the same thing in the photo?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: Ed Douglas on July 23, 2012, 10:02:08 AM
Large object most likely the moon and the others are most likely Venus and Jupiter.   ed
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 23, 2012, 11:14:26 AM
Large object most likely the moon and the others are most likely Venus and Jupiter.   ed

Were the Zetas lying when they said " this dim orb is not the Moon nor is it Venus, as a quick check on Skymap shows."  (See reply #32)

I don't know how to read that map.   Can someone who does confirm or refute?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 23, 2012, 11:14:26 AM
Large object most likely the moon and the others are most likely Venus and Jupiter.   ed

Were the Zetas lying when they said " this dim orb is not the Moon nor is it Venus, as a quick check on Skymap shows."  (See reply #32)

I don't know how to read that map.   Can someone who does confirm or refute?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 24, 2012, 08:14:21 PM
Jim I have attached frames I copied when I realized that what we are dealing with is a lens flare. When I saw the post on the Zeta site that this was the Dark Twin I deleted my bookmark for the Zetas. Credibility issue as far as I'm concerned...IMHO.

As the frames progress you can see the flare in the dark stripe at the top of the station.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 24, 2012, 08:14:21 PM
Jim I have attached frames I copied when I realized that what we are dealing with is a lens flare. When I saw the post on the Zeta site that this was the Dark Twin I deleted my bookmark for the Zetas. Credibility issue as far as I'm concerned...IMHO.

As the frames progress you can see the flare in the dark stripe at the top of the station.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on July 25, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
Quote
As the frames progress you can see the flare in the dark stripe at the top of the station.

The object moves in the same direction as the Sun -- due to rotation of the Earth, of course -- rather than in the opposite direction as a flare would.  Here is further info from The ZetaTalk Newsletter Issue 303, Sunday July 22, 2012, at https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue303.htm (https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue303.htm) :

[start extract]
Many people are confused by reflections of the setting Sun in the windows that house the Neumayer Station cam, thinking these are rising planets. But if they were planets they would be moving with the setting Sun. They are instead going in the opposite direction, proving they are reflections and adjust as the angle of reflection changes. 
(https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/image447.jpg)
[end extract]

A video on Youtube that I saw recently, which was linked to by a message in TH, clearly shows these two properties of lens flares: 1) they stand in front of everything else in the scene, and 2) as the camera turns toward the bright light that is causing the flares, the flares move away from the light.  I might try to find that link, but it will take some time.  Here is the link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7OhYNiqQtA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7OhYNiqQtA)  The title is ***2ND SUN, NIBIRU, PLANET X!!! NEW SUNRISE VIDEO!!!*** .
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on July 25, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
Quote
As the frames progress you can see the flare in the dark stripe at the top of the station.

The object moves in the same direction as the Sun -- due to rotation of the Earth, of course -- rather than in the opposite direction as a flare would.  Here is further info from The ZetaTalk Newsletter Issue 303, Sunday July 22, 2012, at https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue303.htm (https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue303.htm) :

[start extract]
Many people are confused by reflections of the setting Sun in the windows that house the Neumayer Station cam, thinking these are rising planets. But if they were planets they would be moving with the setting Sun. They are instead going in the opposite direction, proving they are reflections and adjust as the angle of reflection changes. 
(https://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/image447.jpg)
[end extract]

A video on Youtube that I saw recently, which was linked to by a message in TH, clearly shows these two properties of lens flares: 1) they stand in front of everything else in the scene, and 2) as the camera turns toward the bright light that is causing the flares, the flares move away from the light.  I might try to find that link, but it will take some time.  Here is the link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7OhYNiqQtA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7OhYNiqQtA)  The title is ***2ND SUN, NIBIRU, PLANET X!!! NEW SUNRISE VIDEO!!!*** .
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on August 15, 2012, 07:14:05 AM
This was reported as appearing over the research station a few days ago August 10th.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/antarctic-ufo-attracts-co_n_1775728.html?utm_hp_ref=ufo


Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on August 15, 2012, 07:14:05 AM
This was reported as appearing over the research station a few days ago August 10th.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/antarctic-ufo-attracts-co_n_1775728.html?utm_hp_ref=ufo


Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on August 15, 2012, 12:48:05 PM
very interesting angeltoes!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on August 15, 2012, 12:48:05 PM
very interesting angeltoes!
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: enlightenme on August 15, 2012, 07:57:01 PM
This was reported as appearing over the research station a few days ago August 10th.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/antarctic-ufo-attracts-co_n_1775728.html?utm_hp_ref=ufo

Extremely interesting angeltoes, thanks so much for posting!  And I don't know about you, but when I think of UFO's, typically I think of alien/extra-terrestrial aircraft, not some large planet-shaped object just hanging out in the sky!  Though I guess that it does technically fit the description of an unidentified flying object, since no one knows what it is! :o :o
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on August 15, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Quote
This was reported as appearing over the research station a few days ago August 10th.

Here is an image from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/antarctic-ufo-attracts-co_n_1775728.html?utm_hp_ref=ufo (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/antarctic-ufo-attracts-co_n_1775728.html?utm_hp_ref=ufo)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/729520/thumbs/r-ANTARCTICUFO-large570.jpg)
" This screenshot shows a circular object in the sky above the Neumayer-Station III research facility in Antarctica on Aug. 10, 2012. It’s still not definitively known what the object was. "


Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on August 15, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Quote
This was reported as appearing over the research station a few days ago August 10th.

Here is an image from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/antarctic-ufo-attracts-co_n_1775728.html?utm_hp_ref=ufo (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/antarctic-ufo-attracts-co_n_1775728.html?utm_hp_ref=ufo)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/729520/thumbs/r-ANTARCTICUFO-large570.jpg)
" This screenshot shows a circular object in the sky above the Neumayer-Station III research facility in Antarctica on Aug. 10, 2012. It’s still not definitively known what the object was. "


Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on August 16, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
Wow, Jim!
Have you sent it on to Marshall yet?
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on August 16, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
Wow, Jim!
Have you sent it on to Marshall yet?
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on August 16, 2012, 04:42:21 PM
Jim - Thank you for getting the screen shot, I tried to attach it but couldn't so settled for just giving you all the link.

Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on August 16, 2012, 04:42:21 PM
Jim - Thank you for getting the screen shot, I tried to attach it but couldn't so settled for just giving you all the link.

Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on August 16, 2012, 06:19:46 PM
Thought I had seen that photo somewhere. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ2q7uI3IDo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on August 16, 2012, 06:19:46 PM
Thought I had seen that photo somewhere. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ2q7uI3IDo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on August 16, 2012, 06:35:54 PM
Jim - Thank you for getting the screen shot, I tried to attach it but couldn't so settled for just giving you all the link.

Here's how:  Left click on the image in the Internet site where it is seen.  In the menu that appears, right click on "Copy Image Location"  (Firefox version).  In the Reply box in the planetxtownhall topic, put the cursor where you want the image to be inserted.  Above the Reply box, left click on the "Insert Image" icon, which is below the B icon.   With the cursor in between the HTML codes (img) and (/img), do Paste by whatever method you prefer.

Note:  I had to change the characters "[" and "]" for "(" and ")" in the line above in order for the character strings to be shown.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on August 16, 2012, 06:35:54 PM
Jim - Thank you for getting the screen shot, I tried to attach it but couldn't so settled for just giving you all the link.

Here's how:  Left click on the image in the Internet site where it is seen.  In the menu that appears, right click on "Copy Image Location"  (Firefox version).  In the Reply box in the planetxtownhall topic, put the cursor where you want the image to be inserted.  Above the Reply box, left click on the "Insert Image" icon, which is below the B icon.   With the cursor in between the HTML codes (img) and (/img), do Paste by whatever method you prefer.

Note:  I had to change the characters "[" and "]" for "(" and ")" in the line above in order for the character strings to be shown.
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on February 20, 2013, 10:07:11 PM
Natalie Wright found this Neumayer movie...worth a look-see.
- Yowbarb
.................................................................................................

http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieW.html  Second Neumayer 24 - hour movie
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on February 20, 2013, 10:07:11 PM
Natalie Wright found this Neumayer movie...worth a look-see.
- Yowbarb
.................................................................................................

http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieW.html  Second Neumayer 24 - hour movie
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: gagan on February 26, 2013, 05:04:45 PM
Natalie Wright found this Neumayer movie...worth a look-see.
- Yowbarb
.................................................................................................

http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieW.html  Second Neumayer 24 - hour movie

What to look for?  When?
Title: Re: Neumayer Station, Antarctica - Strange Object Planet X?
Post by: marshall on February 26, 2013, 05:04:45 PM
Natalie Wright found this Neumayer movie...worth a look-see.
- Yowbarb
.................................................................................................

http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieW.html  Second Neumayer 24 - hour movie

What to look for?  When?