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ilinda - SURVIVAL HEALTH => SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF => Topic started by: ilinda on May 19, 2014, 05:59:31 AM

Title: Re: Survivalist home medicines and natural home cures to help get rid of parasites
Post by: ilinda on May 19, 2014, 05:59:31 AM
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But remember honeybees land many places besides flowers.  They can easily be killed by DE, (probably slowly, and possibly contaminating the entire hive),

Probably not.  DE is not toxic in the chemical sense; it is only silicon.  What it does is to cut membranes.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth)

"Toxicants may be chemical or physical in nature."  http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/toxic.html (http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/toxic.html)
Yes, DE does "cut membranes".  IIRC, it disintegrates chitin in insects and related bugs.  Honeybees, being insects, can be affected.  There is a number of references to DE's ability to kill insects, and one such reference is:http://www.wormfarmingrevealed.com/diatomaceous-earth-and-bees.html

The article does say it can be used with caution, making certain not to put it near blossoms that honeybees would visit.  But that assumes that honeybees never receive any of the windblows DE dust, and that honeybees only visit flowers, and never touch any other surface or place where DE could be.  That is not logical.

 I think I'll avoid using DE outdoors altogether since honeybees are insects, and insects can be killed by DE aka Diatomaceous Earth.  For me, it's not worth the risk of killing already endangered honeybees.
Title: Re: Survivalist home medicines and natural home cures to help get rid of parasites
Post by: Yowbarb on May 19, 2014, 08:14:55 AM
Yowbarb Note: Here's how we use DE:
Outdoors we put it on and near red ant nests.
Sometimes we sprinkle it around the edges of our porches and patios.
That is for ants, any cockroaches that might be in the area trying to get in (lots of roaches and beetles in Florida.)
We don't put it on the bushes etc. since we do have such a situation here with the sandy soil and ants and roaches that solution will just have to do.
I feel that prevents most possibilities of bees landing on it... They just go for the wildflowers and flowering weeds. We have bees flourishing on our property...

Inside the house we throw it under the stove, refrigerator sometimes in the corners of the kitchen and dining room but more often we just use it for hard - to - get - to - areas in the garage.