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Yowbarb - SURVIVING the CHANGES => Survival Shelter and Location Ideas => Topic started by: R.R. Book on November 03, 2018, 11:22:37 AM

Title: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 03, 2018, 11:22:37 AM
Starting a new topic on Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities.  The topic is dual-purpose, to detail where the public can congregate in an emergency necessitating being underground, and to post warnings about underground facilities that may best be avoided due to being occupied by Service-to-Self oriented individuals and their inhumane schemes.

Even if an underground facility may be a normal community feature in non-emergency times, there is no telling what may happen under extreme circumstances.  Under no circumstances would I want the doors to be locked, unless some sort of attack were underway. 

An example of a private facility that has a decades-old solid reputation as being of a STO (Service-to-Others) orientation is a Nazarene college in Oklahoma, which at least in the past had regularly offered the underground portion of its campus to local members of the public during tornado watches.  At least that is my childhood memory of the place, as there has been some reconstruction of the campus in my long absence.

Readers are advised to pay attention to their inner wisdom and remain in prayer about whether a particular underground location may be safe or not.
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 03, 2018, 11:27:48 AM
For those in California, Disneyland has an underground tunnel system primarily set up for staff, though visitors are welcome.  However, I would not want to be trapped there during seismic activity.

Disney World in Florida apparently does not have an underground level, though it does have an above-ground lower level, per this:
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The water level in Central Florida is too high to be able to have underground tunnels, so the park was built up higher instead.
http://www.disneydining.com/14-facts-you-may-not-know-about-walt-disney-world-9/

(https://static.messynessychic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/disneytunnel2-930x1045.jpg)
http://www.themouseconnection.net/2010/07/fun-facts-magic-kingdoms-tunnel-system.html

Though, given the post a while back about the ill-behaved Transformer bots, this aspect could prove a bit creepy if the AI got out of hand:
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The Digital Animation Control System (DACS) is also housed in the Utilidors. DACS is the “nerve center” that controls the hundreds of Audio-Animatronics figures, by orchestrating more than 72,000 individual functions every second. DACS also opens theater doors, elevates stage lifts, operates lighting and curtains, and monitors fire protection, security, equipment failure, and power loss.

https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php/topic,6583.msg104923.html#msg104923

(https://static.messynessychic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/disneytunnel1.jpg)
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 10, 2018, 06:37:09 AM
Montreal has an entire underground level connecting up its buildings - a great feature in a cold climate prone to blizzards!  Its universities also have separate underground tunnels.  Good places to take refuge from other onslaughts?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_City,_Montreal

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Combined, there are 32 kilometres' worth of tunnels over twelve square kilometres of the most densely populated part of Montreal. In total, there are more than 120 exterior access points to the network

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Nearly 500,000 people use it per day. It is also the largest underground complex in the world. It stretches for 32 kilometers (20 miles) and covers 4 million square meters. According to official statistics, its corridors link up with 10 metro stations, 2 bus terminals, 1,200 offices, about 2,000 stores including 2 major department stores, approximately 1,600 housing units, 200 restaurants, 40 banks, 40 movie theatres and other entertainment venues, 7 major hotels, 4 universities, Place des Arts, a cathedral, the Bell Centre (home of the Montreal Canadiens), and 3 exhibition halls: the Place Bonaventure, the Convention Centre (Palais des Congrès de Montréal) and the Olympic Centre.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Montreal_11_db.jpg/440px-Montreal_11_db.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Place_des_Arts%2C_light_well%2C_Montreal_2005-10-21.JPG)

(https://i2.wp.com/montrealundergroundcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Montreal-Underground-City-Map-April-2016.png)

(https://montrealundergroundcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Centre-Eaton-Montreal-Carte-du-Centre.jpg)

(https://montrealundergroundcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Place-Montreal-Trust-2014.jpg)

(https://montrealundergroundcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Place-Alexis-Nihon-Carte-des-magasins.jpg)
https://montrealundergroundcity.com/
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: gagan on November 11, 2018, 01:49:28 AM
Montreal has an entire underground level connecting up its buildings - a great feature in a cold climate prone to blizzards!  Its universities also have separate underground tunnels.  Good places to take refuge from other onslaughts?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_City,_Montreal

....Combined, there are 32 kilometres' worth of tunnels over twelve square kilometres of the most densely populated part of Montreal. In total, there are more than 120 exterior access points to the network

.....Nearly 500,000 people use it per day. It is also the largest underground complex in the world. It stretches for 32 kilometers (20 miles) and covers 4 million square meters. According to official statistics, its corridors link up with 10 metro stations, 2 bus terminals, 1,200 offices, about 2,000 stores including 2 major department stores, approximately 1,600 housing units, 200 restaurants, 40 banks, 40 movie theatres and other entertainment venues, 7 major hotels, 4 universities, Place des Arts, a cathedral, the Bell Centre (home of the Montreal Canadiens), and 3 exhibition halls: the Place Bonaventure, the Convention Centre (Palais des Congrès de Montréal) and the Olympic Centre.

R.R. wow that is impressive... Their foresight and practical genius might save a lot of lives someday...
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: marshall on November 11, 2018, 01:49:28 AM
Montreal has an entire underground level connecting up its buildings - a great feature in a cold climate prone to blizzards!  Its universities also have separate underground tunnels.  Good places to take refuge from other onslaughts?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_City,_Montreal

....Combined, there are 32 kilometres' worth of tunnels over twelve square kilometres of the most densely populated part of Montreal. In total, there are more than 120 exterior access points to the network

.....Nearly 500,000 people use it per day. It is also the largest underground complex in the world. It stretches for 32 kilometers (20 miles) and covers 4 million square meters. According to official statistics, its corridors link up with 10 metro stations, 2 bus terminals, 1,200 offices, about 2,000 stores including 2 major department stores, approximately 1,600 housing units, 200 restaurants, 40 banks, 40 movie theatres and other entertainment venues, 7 major hotels, 4 universities, Place des Arts, a cathedral, the Bell Centre (home of the Montreal Canadiens), and 3 exhibition halls: the Place Bonaventure, the Convention Centre (Palais des Congrès de Montréal) and the Olympic Centre.

R.R. wow that is impressive... Their foresight and practical genius might save a lot of lives someday...
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 18, 2018, 12:15:26 PM
Chicago's pedestrian tunnel system:


(http://www.mobilemaplets.com/thumbnails/8538_thumbnail-1024.jpg)
http://www.mobilemaplets.com/showplace/6040

(http://www.spiegl.org/pedway/xped.jpg.pagespeed.ic.7l-IgKY0me.jpg)
http://www.spiegl.org/pedway/pedway.html
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 18, 2018, 12:29:05 PM
Underground "Metro Concourse" pedestrian tunnel system connecting downtown businesses and government buildings in Oklahoma City.  Less-blurry map @ link below:

(https://teclabs.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/oklahoma-city-downtown-map-s-underground-photos-800x907.jpg)
http://downtownokc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/downtown-undergroundmap-1.pdf
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 18, 2018, 12:39:27 PM
Tulsa's underground pedestrian tunnel system:


(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/1c/21c74c72-8ad4-5853-8c5d-5de96be38257/56bfbd73f397b.image.jpg)
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/about-explore-tulsa-s-past-in-underground-tunnel-tour/article_3a69d12d-d6e7-59f6-a4e7-fbef051d6c03.html
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 18, 2018, 12:58:26 PM
Dallas, Texas underground pedestrian tunnel map (for larger map with details please click link below):

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/609/610/89666943ee6d11e514224fc271bc40e0_original.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&w=700&fit=max&v=1428989348&auto=format&frame=1&q=92&s=4f7adb41d37d8563c6c854731d5b7202)
http://dallaspedestriannetwork.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/DPN_Map.pdf
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 18, 2018, 01:01:05 PM
Washington, D.C. underground pedestrian tunnel map (please click link below for larger image):

(https://external-preview.redd.it/uJN5iH3Wdrdj8nPQavUHRxc-4kldgDTg94BUofC_T_U.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2e9469cebfb83bfdcb5b51ccc4d4f65e5580d398)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/2kgml3/i_decided_to_map_the_underground_system_of/
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 18, 2018, 01:15:30 PM
Underground tunnel system below Northeastern University in Boston:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZVvPg.jpg)
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 18, 2018, 01:24:06 PM
Toronto's 30 km underground pedestrian tunnel system (please click link below for more details):

(http://orastories.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/path-toronto-map-pictures-developed-path-network-map-basemap-pinterest-of-path-toronto-map.jpg)
https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/9771-PATH-Network-Map1.pdf
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 18, 2018, 01:54:52 PM
The Winnipeg Walkway is an underground pedestrian tunnel that connects a few key locations, noted in yellow this map (please click link below for details):

(https://www.wcc.mb.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Downtown-Winnipeg-Hotels-and-Walkway.jpg)

https://downtownwinnipegbiz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/downtown_winnipeg_indoor_walkway_map_2013.pdf
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on November 21, 2018, 04:57:26 AM
Elon Musk has managed to receive permission to tunnel beneath Los Angeles for his high-speed subway, the first leg of which is scheduled to open in December. 

The tunnel will serve both his employees and members of the public in an electric shuttle that moves at 155 mph.

Not sure if that area is stable enough to be undermined in that manner...

Apparently he also owns the enormous tunnel boring equipment needed for the project...one wonders whether the equipment gets more use than just locally...

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/elon-musk-says-his-first-tunnel-will-open-in-december-1350463555611?v=railb&

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/05/11/elon-musks-boring-tunnel-near-completion-in-l-a.html

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2018/11/05/elon-musk-tunnel-underground-orig.cnn-business

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/11/los-angeles-elon-musk-tunnels-under-neighborhood/575725/

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/22/18008674/elon-musk-boring-company-first-tunnel-la-date-opening

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/10/22/elon-musk-tunnel-hawthorne/1724851002/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-says-his-tunnel-under-la-will-be-open-to-the-public-on-dec-10-2018-10-22

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-elon-musk-hawthorne-20181023-story.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faue0jK3LqY

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-hyperloop-pod-competition-jan-27/

(https://www.latimes.com/resizer/pK3F7wWDC5eJLiY0gS_4508Tgsg=/1400x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5bce6888/turbine/la-1540253819-u93q5joyn5-snap-image)

(https://www.latimes.com/resizer/5EDFcjXD1ivuWv86YVZkq5zohBM=/1400x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5bce14ac/turbine/la-1540232351-8d92kdnwa4-snap-image)

(https://cdn.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Musk-Tunnel-SpaceX-LAX-1024x587.jpg)

(https://cdn.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Tunnel-digging-machine-city.jpg)
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: gagan on November 24, 2018, 07:44:26 AM
Elon Musk has managed to receive permission to tunnel beneath Los Angeles for his high-speed subway, the first leg of which is scheduled to open in December. 

The tunnel will serve both his employees and members of the public in an electric shuttle that moves at 155 mph.

Not sure if that area is stable enough to be undermined in that manner...

Apparently he also owns the enormous tunnel boring equipment needed for the project...one wonders whether the equipment gets more use than just locally...

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/elon-musk-says-his-first-tunnel-will-open-in-december-1350463555611?v=railb&

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/05/11/elon-musks-boring-tunnel-near-completion-in-l-a.html

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2018/11/05/elon-musk-tunnel-underground-orig.cnn-business

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/11/los-angeles-elon-musk-tunnels-under-neighborhood/575725/

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/22/18008674/elon-musk-boring-company-first-tunnel-la-date-opening


R.R, I understand your concern about the stability of the area...
Well I am a fan, after some of his landings and I have a high degree of faith in Musk, but that matters naught. Whatever is, IS, the physics of the situation rule. Let's hope the brainiacs are figuring in more factors of earth movement such as a flyby...
- Barb T.
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: marshall on November 24, 2018, 07:44:26 AM
Elon Musk has managed to receive permission to tunnel beneath Los Angeles for his high-speed subway, the first leg of which is scheduled to open in December. 

The tunnel will serve both his employees and members of the public in an electric shuttle that moves at 155 mph.

Not sure if that area is stable enough to be undermined in that manner...

Apparently he also owns the enormous tunnel boring equipment needed for the project...one wonders whether the equipment gets more use than just locally...

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/elon-musk-says-his-first-tunnel-will-open-in-december-1350463555611?v=railb&

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/05/11/elon-musks-boring-tunnel-near-completion-in-l-a.html

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2018/11/05/elon-musk-tunnel-underground-orig.cnn-business

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/11/los-angeles-elon-musk-tunnels-under-neighborhood/575725/

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/22/18008674/elon-musk-boring-company-first-tunnel-la-date-opening


R.R, I understand your concern about the stability of the area...
Well I am a fan, after some of his landings and I have a high degree of faith in Musk, but that matters naught. Whatever is, IS, the physics of the situation rule. Let's hope the brainiacs are figuring in more factors of earth movement such as a flyby...
- Barb T.
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on January 08, 2019, 12:56:30 PM
Here's a commercial underground tunnel system in Missouri that leases spaces to corporations and presumably government.  It has three miles of underground roads and two miles of underground railroad track:
https://www.springfieldunderground.com/

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5bd33d7df8135a3d2c91bf94/t/5bd9d5ca4d7a9cf0e8e1e58a/1541002713654/BenMatthews-07699.jpg?format=1000w)

Referred by:

Marfoogle News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6btef186bhU @ around 1:32:00
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on April 10, 2019, 10:04:57 AM
ZeroHedge reports that Israel is interested in boring a network of underground tunnels beneath its streets:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-09/netanyahu-considers-allowing-elon-musk-bore-tunnels-under-israel

(https://cdn.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/tunnel-boring-machines.jpg)
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: gagan on April 10, 2019, 03:37:07 PM
The Air Force has been boring tunnels for decades, here is an image from the early 1980’s

Air Force Tunnel Boring Machine

http://www.david-sadler.org/pages/news/science/usaf_tbm/usaf_tbm_modified.htm
Photo of United States Air Force tunnel boring machine at Little Skull Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982. There are many rumors of secret military tunnels in the United States. If the rumors are true, machines such as the one shown here are used to make the tunnels. (Source: U.S. Department of Energy.)
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: marshall on April 10, 2019, 03:37:07 PM
The Air Force has been boring tunnels for decades, here is an image from the early 1980’s

Air Force Tunnel Boring Machine

http://www.david-sadler.org/pages/news/science/usaf_tbm/usaf_tbm_modified.htm
Photo of United States Air Force tunnel boring machine at Little Skull Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982. There are many rumors of secret military tunnels in the United States. If the rumors are true, machines such as the one shown here are used to make the tunnels. (Source: U.S. Department of Energy.)
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on April 10, 2019, 04:58:16 PM
I wonder if they are nuclear-powered, like the arctic ice-breaker?

I also wonder how much of global seismicity might be attributable to deep tunnel boring?  Think of all the lawsuits...
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: gagan on December 15, 2019, 11:13:20 AM
The BEST bugout location ever??

Disaster Plan of Worlds' Richest Man? | S0 News Dec.14.2019 ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7oVh88INcE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: marshall on December 15, 2019, 11:13:20 AM
The BEST bugout location ever??

Disaster Plan of Worlds' Richest Man? | S0 News Dec.14.2019 ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7oVh88INcE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Public and Private Underground Tunnels and Facilities
Post by: R.R. Book on December 16, 2019, 04:37:40 AM
Is he advocating that we all move to the New Valley of the Sun with him, or to Texas with Bezos?  Hopefully there will be many more safe locations, and that survivors will be able to create safety by being prepared.